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What really pissed me off was when they cut out Godzilla to show some boring scene. I was like, WTF? I was really pissed off man... Just typing about it right now makes me want to break something. look, I'm a violent fkn man all right.. fuk it man.. They killed the best actor in the movie too.. gdi.

This movie could have been so much better. Its a good movie at minimum, but it could've been great. I will still go and watch part 2 if it comes out.



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It was ok. Way too much of the American marines in it though. Do they really have to force them into every possible scene they can.

Also the monsters fed off radiation so why would they follow the bomb when it hadn't detonated yet? Therefore no radiation. And when Captain Awesome blew up the nest why didn't they just leave the nuke in there? It would have got rid of it a lot easier and stopped the nuclear reaction. I think they really wanted to force that mushroom cloud into the movie along with the Navy.



curl-6 said:
adriane23 said:

Balance in nature means that predators hunt and eat other animals. Where in nature does a predator just show up to beat up other animals just because nature is out of whack?

No, they used echo location with their voices to communicate. Echo location is a sound wave, not an electromagnetic pulse. They were communicating in the beginning of the film over long distances when they were in those cocoons without using EMP blasts. Otherwise, how would they have communicated without knocking out the city's electricity every five seconds?

You misunderstand, it's got nothing to do with a predator/prey dynamic. Godzilla represents nature; the Mutos were not meant to be awakened into today's world, so him eliminating them restored balance.

And they didn't communicate with their voices; they were communicating from Japan to Nevada. That's impossible with sound. The pulses they used to communicate aren't always strong enough to disable electronics; like the characters said, the waves were increasing as the male got closer to hatching. The male was apparently smart enough to realize that his"cries" disabled these annoying new enemies he found himself surrounded by after hatching, and only after that did he start using it as a weapon.

I didn't misunderstand anything. It sounds like you took Ken Watanabe's character too literally when he described how nature balances itself out. That balance he was speaking about is the predator/prey relationship. Godzilla did not represent nature itself, he represented half of the relationship.

In theory, that isn't impossible with an animal that size, actually. Blue whales can communicate up to 1000 miles disregarding noise pollution. Even if you take into consideration the speed at which sound travels through water as opposed to air, the MUTOs could've been communicating wih sound over that large of a distance seeing as how the smaller MUTO was 2-3 times larger than a blue whale. An EMP powerful enough to travel that far would disrupt eletronics everytime they tried to communicate. A low energy EMP wouldn't make it that far, and an EMP strong enough to travel that far is essentially a nuclear explosion each time.



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adriane23 said:

I didn't misunderstand anything. It sounds like you took Ken Watanabe's character too literally when he described how nature balances itself out. That balance he was speaking about is the predator/prey relationship. Godzilla did not represent nature itself, he represented half of the relationship.

In theory, that isn't impossible with an animal that size, actually. Blue whales can communicate up to 1000 miles disregarding noise pollution. Even if you take into consideration the speed at which sound travels through water as opposed to air, the MUTOs could've been communicating wih sound over that large of a distance seeing as how the smaller MUTO was 2-3 times larger than a blue whale. An EMP powerful enough to travel that far would disrupt eletronics everytime they tried to communicate. A low energy EMP wouldn't make it that far, and an EMP strong enough to travel that far is essentially a nuclear explosion each time.

It's not just about Ken Watanabe's line. Since his birth in the 1954 film, Godzilla has represented nature biting back, whether it be punishing man for our nuclear sins, or in this case neutralizing a monster we awoke. It is well established in canon across 60 years and dozens of films. It's not just a throwaway line, it's a reference to a core element of the character that has been well established in series lore.

And this being a giant monster movie, perfect realism is out the window from the start. But the pulses the male emits before birth are concluded by the characters to be communication with the female; they only become a weapon after the male notices that what was presumably a cry for help conveniently disables his tormentors. 



Never thought I would ever reconsider watching the 98 movie again but I did after coming back from seeing Godzilla. It was a much, much better movie...

This movie could have been great, but the cast was underutilised. The directing was predictable and uninspired. The entire movie relied on con incidences and Godzilla barely has 5 minutes of relevant screen time. Truely one of the most underwhelming movies I have ever seen.

This movie is mostly at night, with dim and cloudy lighting,  so IMAX and 3D were absolutely pointless. Everything I hate about movies, from bs pro america, to night action scenes, to pointless 3D is in this movie. 



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foodfather said:
Godzilla barely has 5 minutes of relevant screen time. 

Not true. 

According to IMDb there are over 300 effects shots of Godzilla; for him to be on screen for 5 mins, the average shot would have to be under a second, which is clearly not the case.



curl-6 said:
foodfather said:
Godzilla barely has 5 minutes of relevant screen time. 

Not true. 

According to IMDb there are over 300 effects shots of Godzilla; for him to be on screen for 5 mins, the average shot would have to be under a second, which is clearly not the case.


It clearly is the case.

Close ups of flares dropping next to Godzilla, shots of Godzilla fins underwater, shots of Godzilla tail, shots of Godzilla though helicopter news reports does not count as relevant screen time. 

The only time you get a good look at Godzilla, is the 2 minute sequence on the bridge and the 3 minute fight scene at the end. The only other time you get a good look at Godzilla, is after he ''wakes up'' from fainting and the couple of time you see Godzilla roar into the camera (nothing more than trailer shots). Its probably even less that five miniutes with the constant cutting to kick ass or olsen. 



Scisca said:
Aaron Taylor-Johson was terrible - end of story. His character was unbearable for me to be honest. Apart from him, the acting was really very, very good though.

Still, you missed the absolutely most awful thing that constantly made me feel like throwing up. The immortal-ultimate-unbeatable-bad-ass-american-marines-who-save-the-world-as-usual. Like they are some kind of superhuman. It's just disgusting to me at this point. I turn a movie off when I see it, which I obviously couldn't do in a theatre (such a shame). This also goes to the navy and the absurd placement of ships, following Godzilla with just meters of space between it and massive ships. Everything about the navy was so ridiculous it made me annoyed. This has really devastated the fun I had with the movie. Though I have to admit that I loved the slow and long build-up (before the Ultramarines showed up), which is the part of every movie that I enjoy the most - it's when everything is still a mistery and everything is possibile. That's why I like Alien so much - it takes so long to even realize who the main character is ;) So this part was done very, very well. I also agree that the monster fights were too short and they switched to the human part for no real reason.

To me - an absolutely average movie, but surely an above average monster movie. Could have been great, but showed too little of Godzilla and too much ridiculous super-Americans, which I just can't stand.

Lol nothing any humans in the movie did worked against Godzilla. They either all die, or what they are trying to do backfires. I would say the one thing a human does that works out is flaming the MUTO eggs. One piddily thing humans do right in the whole movie.



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thismeintiel said:

Sorry for the length, in advance. Just really passionate about me some Godzilla.

Let me start this review by saying that I have been a big Godzilla fan ever since I was a kid and watched my first Godzilla movie. It's been so long, I really don't even remember which movie it was. If I had to guess, I would say it was probably Mothra Vs Godzilla, followed shortly by Son of Godzilla. It wasn't till I was older that I realized that I had grown up on all the old Showa films and had completely missed out on the Hessei era, though I have been playing catch up recently with all the Godzilla films. Now, that my Godzilla background is addressed, let's move on to the 2014 film...

I watched Godzilla opening day and decided to let it all sink in for a day or so before I wrote this review. And as the title says, I found this movie to be sadly disappointing. I won't discredit the positive points of the film because of my disappointment, but it does take away from my complete enjoyment of the film. And it's not because I put my expectations very high. In fact, I was willing overlook most negatives of this film, as long as the acting was halfway decent and, most importantly, it delivered on what it promised, Godzilla action. Unfortunately, while the acting was more than halfway decent (great in some instances), the Godzilla action was barely there. This has to be least I have EVER seen Godzilla in any GODZILLA movie I have ever watched. Which is a real shame, considering this was America's chance to prove they could pull off a real Godzilla movie, as well as bring in new fans to the franchise. But, I think it failed. Not completely, mind you, but it definitely fell short. Let me break it down into what I liked and what I didn't.

 

Postives:

Acting – All of the acting ranged from good to superb. As many have said before, Cranston puts in a great performance. And don't let other reviewers tell you that Aaron Taylor-Johson was “wooden.” I found his acting to be pretty good, especially in scenes with Cranston. There were maybe 1 or 2 lines that did come off a little flat in their delivery, and I wish he had been given a few more scenes to convey that he was truly grieving the loss of his father (one who he had openly mocked most of his life for being a crackpot), but overall, he was good. It's true that Elizabeth Olson was given very little to do, but she did fine with what she had. And while Ken Watanabe was mostly reduced to giving exposition, he did a great job of it.

Story – I really liked the story. Especially, how they tied it to the 1954 original, as well as having little easter eggs hidden here and there that reference other monsters in the previous movies. The movie really makes you feel while following the Brodys' story. I have heard some complain about them dropping character develop after the MUTOs show up, but I don't mind that. There doesn't really need to be constant character arcs and changes in a Godzilla/monster/disaster movie. Like I said before, though, I do feel Aaron's character should have had a few scenes where he actually deals with his father's death, instead of it being dropped a minute or so later.

Godzilla's Portrayal – Godzilla actually looks like Godzilla, with a few updates to his image. I'm not too big on his feet, but that's really the worse thing about the design, and it's not really a big deal. Godzilla is actually strong enough to resist gunfire and missiles thrown at him, as well as an atomic bomb. I love that he is huge in the movie, and not actually downsized, like in the '98 Godzilla (compared to the Toho version, at the time.) And best of all, ATOMIC BREATH!! And he uses it twice, in all its glory. I also love how he charges it up, starting with his tail spikes, then it moves up his back, finally blasting out of his mouth when it reaches his head.

CGI – The CG was incredible. Much better than what I thought it would be, looking at some scenes in the trailer. And a lot more believable than many movies out, now. The problem most movies make is that they want you to see their character that they spent hours making, instead of worrying about blending them into the background as seamlessly as possible, making them stand out. Sure, the audience won't be able to see every pixel that made them up, but at least they won't look embarrassingly fake. This movie doesn't commit that sin.

But, let's move onto the sins they do commit...

 

Negatives:

Godzilla's Portrayal: Yep, this is in negative, too. While they get quite a few things right about Godzilla, they get a few things wrong, too. While I said he is strong in this one, even surviving a atomic blast, at the same time he is weak. While the missiles fired at Godzilla don't actually penetrate his skin, the force does blast him back quite a bit. If you remember the old Godzilla, it would take a specialized missile/bomb to have that affect. Here it's normal cruise missiles, ones that would blow up against old Godzilla, which he would then treat like a fly just bit him. Also, while Godzilla is more than capable when fighting one MUTO, put two against him and he gets his ass stomped. Sure, monsters have teamed up and gotten one over Godzilla in the past, but he has always been able to recover and then take them down. Here, it takes the female getting distracted so that Godzilla can take them on one at a time, for him to win. He also faints twice while fighting them, the last time taking a whole night to recover. Why a creature would be able to survive an atomic bomb, yet faint from fighting two monsters for a few minutes, is beyond me.

Godzilla? Oh yea, he's our title monster. I think – Speaking of minutes, let's talk about the very few that Godzilla is in this movie. I think if you tallied up how long Godzilla is onscreen, it MAY add up to 20 mins. If you add up the battle time, it MAY equal 10-15 mins. In other words, Godzilla is barely in Godzilla. Now, I have heard some criticize that Godzilla only shows up at about the hour mark. Personally, I don't mind a slow buildup. In fact, for the first movie in a new franchise, I prefer it. But, and that's a huge BUT, YOU HAVE TO DELIVER ON THE BUILD UP. Unfortunately, this is where the movie ultimately fails.

      Time and time again (3 times, to be exact) the movie builds up the beginnings of great battles. Both monsters appear. Godzilla looks pissed and flares his nostrils. The MUTO roars. Then Godzilla lets out his iconic roar (love the movies take on it, by the way), only to cut to see what the humans are up to. Now, the first time it does this, I didn't mind so much. It just seems like a little poke at the audience, and we also see Ford Brody's son watching them on TV, stating “Look mommy, dinosaurs.” But the second and third time, it was more like a Fuck You! I literally said “Bullshit!” You could feel the disappointment in the audience and a guy a few seats down from me kept looking at his phone every time they did this. Garreth Edwards made a HUGE mistake here. Of course, it wouldn't have been so bad if the last battle was a huge free for all, one that lasted 25 mins. Instead, the final battle may last about 5-10 mins and is constantly cut with more human footage. It's sad when you can say with certainty that the '98 Godzilla did a better job of making Godzilla it's star.

 

In conclusion, the movie was still a good movie, but a disappointing Godzilla movie. As my wife put it, the movie seemed to be focused 80% on humans, 15% on the MUTOs, and a measely 5% on Godzilla, the movie's supposed star. It almost screams to me that this movie was originally supposed to be a monster movie, starring the MUTOs, only to have Godzilla shoehorned into the script shortly before filming. Really it just saddens me, being a big Godzilla fan, seeing that if Garreth had only teased the audience once, instead of 3 times, this movie would have been perfect. Or near it. As is, I would give it a 7.5. I also wouldn't be surprised that this movie has a great opening weekend, but drops sharply in the coming weeks, mainly for not delivering what it promises.

This has to be the worst movie i have seen in the last 5 years! Utter rubbish!



Pacific Rim was 10X better than this trash but made with a smaller budget too!