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rolltide101x said:
@Sales2009

"I am closed minded and blindly defend a company that doesn't know I exist, but at least I admit it"

Use the quote botton. It is very easy to see and use.

Its better then someone else who does it like they think they are employed as a "free intern" of a corporation



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Like some other user said here, I'd expect this sort of statement from a forum dwelling zealot, not from a chief marketing officer of a multi-billion dollar corporation.



VanceIX said:
Chris Hu said:
VanceIX said:
Chris Hu said:

Your forgetting that the 360 is selling a lot more digital games then the PS3 since it has a much bigger library of digital game both full retail, XBLA and indie games.  Minecraft alone sold more then 10 million copies digital on the 360.  Also the PS3 is not going to close that 63.87 million gap in physical software sales anytime soon if ever and on top of that the 360 has a lot more games that are undertracked.

They don't publish digital sales in general, where did you pull that out from? Minecraft I understand, but I don't see how you could possibly know that they are outselling Sony with XBLA and indie games (and Sony is doing much better on the indie front, mind you).

Also, PS3 software sales have pretty much overtaken 360 software sales. Microsoft has nothing left in the tank for the 360 for the next two years, while the PS3 has loads of exclusives coming up.


I guess you never owned a 360 there are a megaton of indie games on the 360 as a matter of fact there are way more indie games available digitally then full retail and XBLA games (and a lot of those can be classified as indie also).  Also I wouldn't call a bunch of JRPG's that already have been released in Japan as loads of exclusives.  Physical software sales for both the 360 and PS3 will drop off very rapidly.  

I own a 360, it's in my sig. You can add me on XBL if you wanted to as well (not that it would matter, since I never renewed my Gold sub).

If a bunch of JRPGs were released only on PS3 in Japan, and they are localized only for PS3 in the west, they are exclusive. Your argument is laughable at best.

There are more indie games on PS3, period. That is inarguable, Microsoft's policies on indie devs burned a lot of bridges. 

There aren't more indie games on the PS3 your forgetting about the mega ton of super cheap (self published and developed) indie games that are on the 360 those count also.



VanceIX said:

So, unless I have an actual quote from Microsoft or solid numbers, I can't prove that the internet laughed at Microsoft over that promotion?

Just look at the comments on any thread or aticle on that issue. People were disgusted.

Why do I care that people laughed at it online? People laughed at the Wii when it was revealed. People laughed at the Hunger Games movies but they have profited hundreds of millions of dollars.

Again, it's very simple. You stated in a factual manner that the promotion was not just a failure but a "magnificent" failure. So I just wanted to know your source. If you want to move the goal posts and say it was a magnificent failure at some place on the Internets then go ahead.



J_Allard said:
VanceIX said:

So, unless I have an actual quote from Microsoft or solid numbers, I can't prove that the internet laughed at Microsoft over that promotion?

Just look at the comments on any thread or aticle on that issue. People were disgusted.

Why do I care that people laughed at it online? People laughed at the Wii when it was revealed. People laughed at the Hunger Games movies but they have profited hundreds of millions of dollars.

Again, it's very simple. You stated in a factual manner that the promotion was not just a failure but a "magnificent" failure. So I just wanted to know your source. If you want to move the goal posts and say it was a magnificent failure at some place on the Internets then go ahead.

The internet backlash came at the worst possible point for Microsoft, that is why it was a "magnificent failure"

And people laugh at everything. They just happened to laugh at this a lot more, and seeing as that the One isn't gaining ground on the PS4 due to the move, yes, it very much was a failure.

If you won't belive me without your so called factual evidence, fine. It's pretty obvious though that Microsoft lost a lot more than it gained with that move, as it was a luaghingstock for a while after it.

Chris Hu said:

There aren't more indie games on the PS3 your forgetting about the mega ton of super cheap (self published and developed) indie games that are on the 360 those count also.

Microsoft's policies on indie games have alienated self-publishers, and Sony has a lot more self-publishing developers now, with more indie games bing released every day for both the PS3 and the Vita. The 360 is not an indie-friendly platform, and I encourage you to prove me otherwise.



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The 360 might not be a super friendly indie platform but there are still a mega ton of cheap (99 cents) indie games on it.  Plus indie games where big on the 360 a lot sooner then on the PS3.  Braid probably would be the prime example for that.  Also if the 360 was really that harsh on indies then Minecraft would have never sold over 10 million digital copies and close to 5 million physical copies (that game will stay in the global weekly charts until it goes out of print).



sales2099 said:
rolltide101x said:
@Salea2009.

I used to give you the benefit of a doubt but it is clear you are just an Xbox Fanboy. To defend this statement is just terrible

At least I am aware of it, and see the merits of the competition. Unlike others who think their choice is the be all end all and everything else is garbage. Good day.


Props Sales. I cant stand people who are clearly bias and then openly claim not to be -_-



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Wow, at least sony makes jokes about the shitty things MS actual does and not make up completely random shit.

Yusuf Mehdi is pretty irritating. He should leave the PR to the guys like Phil and Larry, who are doing an awesome job.



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I bet this is also the real reason WiiU is selling poorly,. Thanks Yusuf. I wonder why Nintendo wasn't so honest with us.



man what a joke. First they say the graphical performance can increase without kinect, and now this. I'm pretty sure there is people like me waiting on the new tales, and persona games.