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Forums - Nintendo - When it comes to WIiU why do western 3rd parties get so much flack, while Japanese ones dont?

Mr Khan said:
Konami's just never really been interested in putting their A-level stuff on Nintendo platforms, for quite a while. Capcom, Tecmo-Koei, and Sega have all been decent.

There's Square Enix, to be sure, but that ship sailed with Nintendo home consoles a while ago, too.


Decent in what way? what was the last thing Capcom released for Wii U? a RE port? whats the next thing they are releasing? a MH port? Tecmo Koei, sure they are working on Zelda but im talking what about their OWN games? Sega ill been on that one, my point was how can one call them decent and then throw bile at Activision, Ubi and EA ok maybe not EA, IMHO they do just as much if not more than the companies you mentioned



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Thats the  japanese devs becoming more like western devs part I was talking about.   Japanese devs adopt stuff from the west because they believed they have to to stay relevant.  E.g. the new DMC was streamlined because for the mainstream audience. The problem is japanese devs think (all devs think) that the old school gamers turned into those mainstream gamers which is factually wrong. There is 2 types of "gamers" now.

Its not really about western or not but about how people handle things.  Its also not only about day1 DLC its all that stuff combined its about the whole company ethics etc. (its more a publisher than a developer problem)



JazzB1987 said:

Thats the  japanese devs becoming more like western devs part I was talking about.   Japanese devs adopt stuff from the west because they believed they have to to stay relevant.  E.g. the new DMC was streamlined because for the mainstream audience. The problem is japanese devs think (all devs think) that the old school gamers turned into those mainstream gamers which is factually wrong. There is 2 types of "gamers" now.

Its not really about western or not but about how people handle things.  Its also not only about day1 DLC its all that stuff combined its about the whole company ethics etc. (its more a publisher than a developer problem)

ok well considerimg the numbers that western publishers have been putting up versus, their Japanese counterparts, its kind of hard to blame them



oniyide said:
Mr Khan said:
Konami's just never really been interested in putting their A-level stuff on Nintendo platforms, for quite a while. Capcom, Tecmo-Koei, and Sega have all been decent.

There's Square Enix, to be sure, but that ship sailed with Nintendo home consoles a while ago, too.


Decent in what way? what was the last thing Capcom released for Wii U? a RE port? whats the next thing they are releasing? a MH port? Tecmo Koei, sure they are working on Zelda but im talking what about their OWN games? Sega ill been on that one, my point was how can one call them decent and then throw bile at Activision, Ubi and EA ok maybe not EA, IMHO they do just as much if not more than the companies you mentioned

What's the only thing Capcom's released on any other consoles lately? Yet another Street Fighter IV port?



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

they choose the same arquiteture as x360, and x360 is irrelevant in japan.
is harer to port from ps3, ps4, x1 and pc than x360, so we wont see lots of japonese titles on wii u.

in america is easier to see multies ports, cos x360 is relevant



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most people covered the key points.

I think most Japanese 3rd parties are like nintendo, stuck in the stone age, or migrated to mobiles. It also doesn't help 90% of their stuff isn't localized. Hell I would even take english subtitles so I can at least read what they saying in Japanese.

As for western 3rd parties, they produce shitload more which we all want to play. Hence why people get upset when games they like don't come.

Like for me, I like tiger woods golf games, Wii was perfect for that (then come the PS4 motion controller to match the experience). I remember when EA and Nintendo had an unprecedented partnership and they showed how they used the gamepad and wii remote in some trailer they had. Looked like fun seeing the ball on the actual ground. But I guess we will never know now.



 

 

I feel Ubisoft is one of Nintendo's biggest 3rd party supporters. They've developed 15 games for the system. (Including Watch Dogs) and published, didn't develop, an additional two more.



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the_dengle said:

Bandai-Namco: as with Capcom, I am hard pressed to name major home console titles released by these guys in the past year and the immediate future. The Wii U did get a Tekken game at launch and their cooperation in Smash Bros development gives them some good publicity.


I feel like that's looking at things the wrong way with Bamco.  You're examining the Namco side which is basically dying and hasn't done anything relevant in a long, long time.

The Bandai side is the relevant part and I would submit that they release multiple "major" home console titles... just all of them are geared towards the Japanese market.  Which admittedly isn't a huge player in the grand scheme of things, but it's a big enough deal that Nintendo should be caring about it.

All the anime stuff goes through Bandai.  Gundam; One Piece; Dragon Ball; Kamen Rider; Naruto; Jojo.  I'd say they all got a level of sales that was respectable enough to be worthwhile.

And the thing is, they do develop their games for multiple platforms.  Gundam; One Piece & Dragon Ball all come to Vita as well, while Naruto comes to Xbox 360.  

They also used to develop titles in these very series for Wii, as well, so it's not like they're opposed to Nintendo home consoles.

They're working on it.  Kamen Rider 2 is also coming to WiiU and One Piece Unlimited World Red is coming to everything under the sun, but I still feel like they should get more flak for not supporting WiiU more.  It's the equivalent of what the western third parties do in terms of ignoring the console, at least.



Mr Khan said:
oniyide said:
Mr Khan said:
Konami's just never really been interested in putting their A-level stuff on Nintendo platforms, for quite a while. Capcom, Tecmo-Koei, and Sega have all been decent.

There's Square Enix, to be sure, but that ship sailed with Nintendo home consoles a while ago, too.


Decent in what way? what was the last thing Capcom released for Wii U? a RE port? whats the next thing they are releasing? a MH port? Tecmo Koei, sure they are working on Zelda but im talking what about their OWN games? Sega ill been on that one, my point was how can one call them decent and then throw bile at Activision, Ubi and EA ok maybe not EA, IMHO they do just as much if not more than the companies you mentioned

What's the only thing Capcom's released on any other consoles lately? Yet another Street Fighter IV port?

off the top of my head, Strider, Dead Rising 3 RE7 will probably be out sooner than later and i dont expect that to be on Wii u the Dragon's Dogma follow up released not to long ago Remember me some time before that. Not much but more than what the WIi U has been getting, so again how is it decent?



Cobretti2 said:
most people covered the key points.

I think most Japanese 3rd parties are like nintendo, stuck in the stone age, or migrated to mobiles. It also doesn't help 90% of their stuff isn't localized. Hell I would even take english subtitles so I can at least read what they saying in Japanese.

As for western 3rd parties, they produce shitload more which we all want to play. Hence why people get upset when games they like don't come.

Like for me, I like tiger woods golf games, Wii was perfect for that (then come the PS4 motion controller to match the experience). I remember when EA and Nintendo had an unprecedented partnership and they showed how they used the gamepad and wii remote in some trailer they had. Looked like fun seeing the ball on the actual ground. But I guess we will never know now.

so then my next question is, what about Sony, that is very much a Japanese company as well, but they get support out the wazoo, hell theyve been getting support from day one, even the Vita is getting love. What is it about Sony that Ninty cant get the same?

I know someone will pull PS4 out the butt but that system is already getting two if not of if not the biggest games. KH3 and FF15 and i imagine once the cost to develop go down, we'll see alot of Japanese games for it, like we are seeing for PS3 now.