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Play4Fun said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
 


the software was only successful because of the wii's hardware.

If they made a wii sports for wii U, it would fail.


Like I said just in the last post, trying to use Nintendo's fuck-ups with the Wii U to downplay the importance of Wii's software is just lame.


Like I said in my previous post, trying to generate high expectations on software which was only successful because of the wii's hardware is just lame.



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Mario Kart 8 is going to sell like hotcakes - at least on the established Wii U base.
As of 26th of April, 106k copies have been preordered. By comparison, SM3DW launched with an amount of 100k preorders, and for Kart it's still a month to go.
Is it going to boost the Wii U? Yes. But not significantly and not for a long time, if Nintendo doesn't market it well.

The advertising campaign needs to have a very wide range, commercials have to be shown very often.
I live in Austria and have never seen a Wii U commercial. The Austrian Broadcasting Corporation (ORF - öffentlich rechtliches Fernsehen) reaches 33% of our population, which adds up to more than 2.6 million people..
I don't know about other countries, but compared to the most of them Austria is a very small one..

Of course it's expensive, but if Nintendo finally wants to sell consoles, they should start advertising their consoles aggressively - just like Microsoft and Sony do..
Their consoles can be seen everywhere..



fps_d0minat0r said:

Like I said in my previous post, trying to generate high expectations on software which was only successful because of the wii's hardware is just lame.

Software was the primary reason for Wii's huge hardware sales.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

curl-6 said:
fps_d0minat0r said:

Like I said in my previous post, trying to generate high expectations on software which was only successful because of the wii's hardware is just lame.

Software was the primary reason for Wii's huge hardware sales.


Like I said before, the software was developed around the hardware.

If they try and make a wii sports around the wii U, there will be no interest in the game. Its because the hardware sold the software.

even for other games, the wii made mario sell, but mario isnt able to make the wii U sell.



fps_d0minat0r said:
curl-6 said:
fps_d0minat0r said:

Like I said in my previous post, trying to generate high expectations on software which was only successful because of the wii's hardware is just lame.

Software was the primary reason for Wii's huge hardware sales.


Like I said before, the software was developed around the hardware.

If they try and make a wii sports around the wii U, there will be no interest in the game. Its because the hardware sold the software.

even for other games, the wii made mario sell, but mario isnt able to make the wii U sell.

The hardware is just a vessel for playing software. People bought Wiis for Wii Sports, Mario Kart Wii, Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros Brawl, etc.

Mario isn't working as well on Wii U so far because it wasn't a bold new step like Galaxy, and Wii U's still too expensive for a lot of that audience.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

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Mr Khan said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
It should be the beginning of good things but not the end. It's a key title, but we should see about 6 others over the next 12 months, and possibly a price cut. If it's not selling well in one years time, stick a fork in it. But it's not all MK8.

I will say, however, if MK8 doesn't start an upward sales trend, Nintendo will probably pull the pin behind the scenes and titles such as EAD Tokyo's next Mario will be moved to a new platform. EBay

Ebay?

Yes, Nintendo's new secret platform. Lol, my phone must have added that in.



curl-6 said:
ps4tw said:

How is it cherry picking? The console market is as large as its ever been and the Wii U isn't selling and has almost no third party support. Pikmin, 3D Mario etc have not helped sales. Why will Mario Kart? Nintendo aren't enticing new customers by offering the same franchise year after year. Can you really see the CoD crowd going for Mario Kart? The Forza crowd? Any gaming crowd? As I said, no karting game has been successful outside of Mario Kart and that can be largely attributed to lack of competition on Nintendo consoles. 

You're incredibly out of touch if you think Mario Kart doesn't still have broad appeal. Look no further than Mario Kart 7.

even worse, he wrongly says nintendo delivers the ame franchise year after year and then talks about Cod.



curl-6 said:
ps4tw said:

How is it cherry picking? The console market is as large as its ever been and the Wii U isn't selling and has almost no third party support. Pikmin, 3D Mario etc have not helped sales. Why will Mario Kart? Nintendo aren't enticing new customers by offering the same franchise year after year. Can you really see the CoD crowd going for Mario Kart? The Forza crowd? Any gaming crowd? As I said, no karting game has been successful outside of Mario Kart and that can be largely attributed to lack of competition on Nintendo consoles. 

You're incredibly out of touch if you think Mario Kart doesn't still have broad appeal. Look no further than Mario Kart 7.

What was it's competition? My point proven.



How does a next gen console that is a extra year older, has a bunch of high quality games, but cannot sell more than PS3 or X360 on a weekly basis be saved by a single game?

Nintendo has lost the interest of most core gamers because the Wii U is not as powerful as PS4 or X1 (specifically lacks memory and storage), online features lag behind the competition, the media features stink, they don't have a trophy/achievement system, and their advertising makes it "un-cool" for a core gamer to buy the system.

The Wii was built on sales to casual gamers with the WiiMote/Nunchuk. The Wii U has failed to re-capture the attention of that crowd with the touchpad. Wii U is left with people that are loyal to Nintendo. (Me included) Who bought the Wii U in hopes that Nintendo will wake up and join the main console race again... Outside of a bunch of first party games and a couple of third party games like Wonderful 101 my Wii U has spent a lot of time turned off.



routsounmanman said:

I'm not saying that WiiU will magically sell through the roof and reach 100m sales. But MK8 will be the best thing to happen to Nintendo lately and easily push WiiU for a bit until SSB comes. And in the end, 15m - 20m lifetime for WiiU is perfectly viable and will turn a healthy profit overall.

Completely different from the SEGA situation.

Why is that true for MK8 but not any of the other titles that have so far come out? Like 3D Mario? It's a false economy thinking people like Mario. They don't care - it's just one of the only handful of games on the console that isn't shovelware. 

 

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