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ps4tw on 21 May 2014
Sharu said:

We now in the time of economic stagnations.

People who like Nintendo games are usually grown ups with a families/kids. Who have a lot of things to care and know what a liability is. So they unlikely to drop money for new game hardware in a hard times. Their support for the console will grow bigger since more games appealing to them will be out.

The 'core' auditory of PS4/X1 are gamefreaks who think only about new games. They easily bought the nextgen hype and now sitting with a mildly powerful machines with no new games to play, thats why they are so defensive on game forums. 

The winner of the generation will be the console which appeals not to small group of gaming fanatics (male, single, 16-32 years old, basement dweller) but to broader audience (as always). So we'll see how the things will turn out. But it seems to me this generation will not be an easy walk for anyone of a big three.

Your argument tends to fall apart when we consider the GC was how many years ago? This gen will be a cake walk for the PS4. It's really the only console out there with a main focus on gamers. I doubt we will see it do anywhere near PS2 figures, but that souly depends on the gaming industry. If they keep making the same games, then 80 mill lifetime. If they make good, different and revolutionary must-have games, then it has a chance of doing ps2 figures. But considering how PC gaming is overshadowing the consoles massively, it'll take some genius marketing and tech to pull it off. 



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zorg1000 on 21 May 2014
ps4tw said:
zorg1000 said:
ps4tw said:

Because....Half a thought there buddy.

why dont u back up ur claims? where is ur proof that all Nintendo games appeal to the same audience? how do u know games like Mario and Fire Emblem share the same fanbase or that Pikmin is bought by the same crowd as Smash Bros? Also how can u be so sure Killzone and Infamous dont share a common fanbase?

Show some proof or admit ur making things up.

Easy. Sales of games on the GC and WiiU yet the overall sales of the consoles. 

 

 

how are sales of the console proof that all Nintendo games appeal to a single audience? Ur not really making any sense. Have u ever thought maybe there are people who arent necessarily Nintendo fans but fans of a specific Nintendo series? Someone can be a Zelda fan but not like any other Nintendo franchises.



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curl-6 on 21 May 2014
ps4tw said:
curl-6 said:
ps4tw said:

If Nintendo appeals to such a large audience, then why has the WiiU and GC bombed? *oh snap*

Look at GBA and 3DS sales for the same generation. *Oh snap*

The longer you drag on this laughable claim that Nintendo games don't have broad appeal, the more you're embarrassing yourself.

Lol buddy you just dodged what I said. Answer it and keep it relevant - we are talking about home consoles, not portables here. 

If Nintendo games have broad appeal, then why the dire WiiU and GC sales? 

Again with the goalpost moving. Now you seek to exclude handhelds because they poke a hole your absurd argument.

Nintendo software like Mario Kart, Smash Bros, and Pokemon consistently sell millions and millions of copies. Why? Because they have broad appeal. Much broader than something like Killzone or Infamous.



ps4tw on 22 May 2014
curl-6 said:
ps4tw said:Lol buddy you just dodged what I said. Answer it and keep it relevant - we are talking about home consoles, not portables here. 

If Nintendo games have broad appeal, then why the dire WiiU and GC sales? 

Again with the goalpost moving. Now you seek to exclude handhelds because they poke a hole your absurd argument.

Nintendo software like Mario Kart, Smash Bros, and Pokemon consistently sell millions and millions of copies. Why? Because they have broad appeal. Much broader than something like Killzone or Infamous.


If you are talking about sports cars, why the hell would you then talk about SUV's? Portables are different in everyway to home consoles. One is portable, the other isn't. Are you going to compare an ipod to a hifi? Didn't think so. 

You keep repeating yourself and haven't answered the question - if those titles appeal to a varied audience, then why do the consoles sell so poorly?



curl-6 on 22 May 2014
ps4tw said:
curl-6 said:
ps4tw said:Lol buddy you just dodged what I said. Answer it and keep it relevant - we are talking about home consoles, not portables here. 

If Nintendo games have broad appeal, then why the dire WiiU and GC sales? 

Again with the goalpost moving. Now you seek to exclude handhelds because they poke a hole your absurd argument.

Nintendo software like Mario Kart, Smash Bros, and Pokemon consistently sell millions and millions of copies. Why? Because they have broad appeal. Much broader than something like Killzone or Infamous.


If you are talking about sports cars, why the hell would you then talk about SUV's? Portables are different in everyway to home consoles. One is portable, the other isn't. Are you going to compare an ipod to a hifi? Didn't think so. 

You keep repeating yourself and haven't answered the question - if those titles appeal to a varied audience, then why do the consoles sell so poorly?

NIntendo franchises aren't just on consoles though; Wii U and GCN don't show they're not popular, because at the same time 3DS and GBA sold well. Which answers your second question too; since people can get their Nintendo fix on portables, they go there to play Mario and such whenever Nintendo releases unattractive console hardware.



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ps4tw on 23 May 2014
curl-6 said:
ps4tw said:

If you are talking about sports cars, why the hell would you then talk about SUV's? Portables are different in everyway to home consoles. One is portable, the other isn't. Are you going to compare an ipod to a hifi? Didn't think so. 

You keep repeating yourself and haven't answered the question - if those titles appeal to a varied audience, then why do the consoles sell so poorly?

NIntendo franchises aren't just on consoles though; Wii U and GCN don't show they're not popular, because at the same time 3DS and GBA sold well. Which answers your second question too; since people can get their Nintendo fix on portables, they go there to play Mario and such whenever Nintendo releases unattractive console hardware.

So you are then saying that the experience on a handheld is the same as a livingroom console? ........



zorg1000 on 23 May 2014
ps4tw said:
curl-6 said:
ps4tw said:

If you are talking about sports cars, why the hell would you then talk about SUV's? Portables are different in everyway to home consoles. One is portable, the other isn't. Are you going to compare an ipod to a hifi? Didn't think so. 

You keep repeating yourself and haven't answered the question - if those titles appeal to a varied audience, then why do the consoles sell so poorly?

NIntendo franchises aren't just on consoles though; Wii U and GCN don't show they're not popular, because at the same time 3DS and GBA sold well. Which answers your second question too; since people can get their Nintendo fix on portables, they go there to play Mario and such whenever Nintendo releases unattractive console hardware.

So you are then saying that the experience on a handheld is the same as a livingroom console? ........

in previous generations, no. when comparing 3DS and Wii U, yes the experiences are very similar. In terms of hardware and software both devices share many silmilarities which i believe is one factor in Wii U's  poor sales.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

curl-6 on 23 May 2014
ps4tw said:
curl-6 said:
ps4tw said:

If you are talking about sports cars, why the hell would you then talk about SUV's? Portables are different in everyway to home consoles. One is portable, the other isn't. Are you going to compare an ipod to a hifi? Didn't think so. 

You keep repeating yourself and haven't answered the question - if those titles appeal to a varied audience, then why do the consoles sell so poorly?

NIntendo franchises aren't just on consoles though; Wii U and GCN don't show they're not popular, because at the same time 3DS and GBA sold well. Which answers your second question too; since people can get their Nintendo fix on portables, they go there to play Mario and such whenever Nintendo releases unattractive console hardware.

So you are then saying that the experience on a handheld is the same as a livingroom console? ........

I'm saying the handheld experience is more than adequate for delivering the Nintendo experience audiences desire.



ps4tw on 24 May 2014
curl-6 said:
ps4tw said:

So you are then saying that the experience on a handheld is the same as a livingroom console? ........

I'm saying the handheld experience is more than adequate for delivering the Nintendo experience audiences desire.

So then your point is Nintendo do not need a living room console, meaning the Wii U is redundant? 

zorg1000 said:
ps4tw said:

So you are then saying that the experience on a handheld is the same as a livingroom console? ........

in previous generations, no. when comparing 3DS and Wii U, yes the experiences are very similar. In terms of hardware and software both devices share many silmilarities which i believe is one factor in Wii U's  poor sales.

In terms of hardware. Lol. Please, do explain. 



curl-6 on 24 May 2014
ps4tw said:
curl-6 said:
ps4tw said:

So you are then saying that the experience on a handheld is the same as a livingroom console? ........

I'm saying the handheld experience is more than adequate for delivering the Nintendo experience audiences desire.

So then your point is Nintendo do not need a living room console, meaning the Wii U is redundant? 

Since the libraries are not identical, no, it isn't redundant.