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lol at some of the comments. Funny thing is that people swear Ninty games are so much better than 3rd party ones are the same ones crying when a game doesnt get released on time or at all on a Ninty system. Either you care or you dont and judging by the sales. Most people dont and are content to buy them on another system or not at all.

Well I actually never talked about longer dev cycles. Taking the time to make a game great/to polish it does not equal same amount of people working longer. It can also mean having less people that do the graphics work and more programmers etc and then doing it in the same amount of time.


@ bold.  Lol? In what universe would that happen? If publishers would stop their  "same game as everyone makes it but with better visuals" then ONLY the better and more experimental games would be left. Thats the whole point of not focusing on graphics and taking more time for gameplay. If the graphics arms race would stop then noone would buy those shit games. And when you stop focusing on the visuals you automatically need LESS money to make a game.

You could invest more money/manpower into important things and/or hire even more people to help working on that game. Both will result in better games and dev cycles would not be longer. If you keep the same approach as devs do today then polishing will obviously result in loger development time but thats not what I am talking about/suggesting. Devs and publishers need to learn hot to economize properly.

What did IGN's Greg Miller say a few days ago about SquareEnix and TombRaider? "You expected it to sell this many millions. And it just sold how many millions? FAILUUUUURE!!!!!!!!!"
If a game thats pretty good but nothing super special fails even tho it sold MILLIONS then something is completely wrong. On the other hand there is japanese games that sell 100k and are a huge success without being worse games. (btw not the graphics made TR a good game other stuff did. So I would focus on that other stuff instead of graphics)


Why am I talking about graphics/visuals? Because third party focuses on those instead of making good games which is the reason for alot of people not buying their games. Its all visuals and nothing else. And the visuals are whats holding games back from becoming better 90% of the time.
Making the visuals more and more realistic/"inpressive" = no place for risky games because if they fail they would burn more money than NOT so visually impressive (in terms of newest effects etc) games.


Why was I using xenoblade and Sotc as examples? Because those are great games and by far better than 90% of the PS360 games even tho they are visually inferior. The graphics are sufficient and if you take a close look you will see that I chose emulated 1080p screenshots. (to show that expecially Xenoblade in 1080p is sufficient and still way less expensive to make than lets say FF13 etc.)

If we would get more games like those 2 you know games without all that shiny cutting edge stuff and mega polycount BLAH (lets say android/IOS/PSvita visuals) but with better story/better gameplay and with polish. I would go "STFU AND TAKE MY MONEY!"-mode.


if you are German or understand German as your name suggests let me tell you this. Today's games are "mehr schein als sein". In a few years you will have alot of mediocre games with then outdated graphics and in 10 or 20 years when you think back to this day and your kids ask you "what were the special games of year X on console X" you will wonder how it was possible for almost every dev to only make forgettable games. No Chrono trigger or Castlevania or Megaman or whatever. You will most likely say something like MINECRAFT or some other random Indie game.

I have to admit, I can't get too upset about missing games that don't interest me anyway (GTA5, Battlefield 4, etc) when I have games like 3D World, Pikmin 3, and Tropical Freeze available. On the other hand, I happily buy third party Wii U games when they meet my standards.

I played Phantom Hourglass and NSMB.

Play Super Mario 3D World and/or Skyward Sword, and compare those games to call of duty or assassin´s creed.

fact is most gamers prefer cod/ac over those games, just look at the sales.

I have nothing against buying 3rd party games, but i'm not going to do it just for the sake of buying 3rd party games. I'm a gamer 1st, a nintendo fan second.
1. Most of the 3rd party games i MIGHT be interested were sequels (mass effect, batman, darksiders, ninja gaiden) i have a thing about a franchise in my collection sticking on one console. I'm REALLY hoping nintendos big announcement at e3 is bayonetta one will be available for download by the launch of bayonetta 2.
2. Most of the time the nintendo version of games are simply an inferior product, a plain old bad game, or a game i'm just not interested in.
ex's. final fantasy crystal bearers (bad game), just dance, rayman legends (not interested {MIGHT download rayman, but i don't buy sidescrolling platformers retail). cod ghosts/black ops (no community in a mainly online game) I predict watch dogs will be a poor version compared to ps4 and xb1, but better than ps3 and 360. That said it's delayed beyond all the other versions.
Now, after saying all that, i bought alot of 3rd party games for wii. they were original exclusive ip's. I have no more heroes 1 and 2, madworld(top 5 wii game for me), nba jam, fragile dreams, tatsunoku vs capcom, little kings story. Way more 3rd parties than 1st actually. If publishers starting taking chances like that again, then i'll be buying their games.

The DLC IS coming to the Wii U version, confirmed not just by advertisements, but by Ubisoft themselves. I'd like to see a source for that claim. 

oh, btw. I'd buy more games in general if more good games would be made. Assassin's creed was a HUGE dissapointment (great gameplay, story was a total letdown), call of duty AC is the 1st cod that shows promise of innovation (again great gameplay, but usually a boring universe). Elder scrolls has alot to do, but any game with customizable characters lacks soul to me. Your making ME come up with a cool character? Aren't their ppl you pay to do that? thats lazy to me. An rpg character creator will never replace a master chief, mario, samus, or kratos. We need more darksiders, last of us, halos, starhawk and zelda games in the world.