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Which is better?

Complete domination of one brand 56 32.37%
 
Fierce and close competition 98 56.65%
 
Ouya 17 9.83%
 
Total:171

It depends, a monopole by MS would be the worst thing ever.

Otherwise, a monopole is really good for gamers



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

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I don't think game wise a monopoly would be bad but for technology advancement it would. Why spend millions and innovate when you are the clear dominant force? People will buy your console anyway so no need to change anything.

That's where competition does it's work. Sony got lazy during PS3 era thinking that people would get two jobs to buy the PS3. They lost tremendous market share for being cocky and look where this lead them... they released the PS4, they added 4 more gigs of ram and stayed competitive to the others. Now thanks to not being the market leader they had to improve, build a console that is both dev friendly and consumer friendly.

Microsoft got too confident with 360 and this lead them to making bad decisions. Now they have to work way more to stay competitive... ummm just like Sony had to do to stay competitive with PS3.

Even Nintendo, the market leader during SNES era they thought they would still reign with a console that couldn't follow technology.

Some of you should start to realise companies are not there to please you but to make money. The only reason they try to get better is so they make more money and a good fierce competition prevents them from being too comfortable so they try hard to get better... I hope there is always good competition.



Aerys said:
It depends, a monopole by MS would be the worst thing ever.

Otherwise, a monopole is really good for gamers


MS has had a monopoly for over 30 years I guess you never heard of Windows.



There isn't a huge difference in 7 million and 5 million especially when you realize that Xbox One hasn't released in as many countries as ps4.



8th generation console totals prediction

Xbox One-95 million
Wii U-15 million

playstation 4-70 million

Basically, it gives a company power to severely limit the kinds of games that come out. Nintendo for instance didn't want violent games, so we didn't get those. Sony didn't want 2D games, so we didn't get those for a while.



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Chris Hu said:
Aerys said:
It depends, a monopole by MS would be the worst thing ever.

Otherwise, a monopole is really good for gamers


MS has had a monopoly for over 30 years I guess you never heard of Windows.

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imo
the weirdest thing is MS hates competition but constantly puts its self into competition in markets that already have an establihed leader.

Google vs Bing is such a slaughter its not even funny.



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

Chris Hu said:
DonFerrari said:
Domination isn't the same as monopoly... and at least in PS and PS2 case the developers were free to dev for other plats if they wanted and the system and games were cheap enough. Maybe if the company were trying real monopoly and control that would be a bad thing (like in the early days of NES and some of MS tentatives).


NES pretty much had a monopoly throughout the generation the only markets they didn't dominate is the ones that they didn't choose to get into much because they thought those wouldn't generate much profits for them (South America and other small markets at that time).  But the Atari 2600 actually was bit more dominat when they first started since there where no third party pusblishers yet.  As far as having control over 3rd parties no one will ever be as dominant as Nintendo was during the NES era not only could they tell them what games to make for their system they also controlled how many copies could be made of each game since they manufactured all the cartriges.

Nintendo had NES sold under contract on Brazil through Gradiente at the time and there also a lot of counterfeit hardware to run their games. And  I just gave the sole situation when domination were bad (and the other on the possibility of MS having dominated while their policies were bad)... Atari made itself a victm on its heyday, but it still had competition...



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Chris Hu said:
DonFerrari said:
Domination isn't the same as monopoly... and at least in PS and PS2 case the developers were free to dev for other plats if they wanted and the system and games were cheap enough. Maybe if the company were trying real monopoly and control that would be a bad thing (like in the early days of NES and some of MS tentatives).


NES pretty much had a monopoly throughout the generation the only markets they didn't dominate is the ones that they didn't choose to get into much because they thought those wouldn't generate much profits for them (South America and other small markets at that time).  But the Atari 2600 actually was bit more dominat when they first started since there where no third party pusblishers yet.  As far as having control over 3rd parties no one will ever be as dominant as Nintendo was during the NES era not only could they tell them what games to make for their system they also controlled how many copies could be made of each game since they manufactured all the cartriges.

Yeah.  I see Nintendo as a monopoly because they were forcing others to stay exclusive to them.  If one console dominated now, the third parties could go to whoever they choose.  They're not forced to develop for just one company.  

Example.  The DS dominated over the PSP but there were devs that developed exclusively for the PSP over the DS because they gained more profits on the PSP.  The lack of games though wasn't because Nintendomination, it was mainly all the piracy.



And the best part is people accusing Sony using it dominance to take a short cut on developement on PS3, yet that was their boldest move... and they also think Sony picked 600,00 tag out of greed on being dominant (while losing 200,00 for each console), the arrogance part can be accepted. Arrogance isn't related to domination, as there are a lot of arrogant loser dorks. When you are dominating arrogance is seem as self-confidence, if Sony had kicked everybody again no one would say they were arrogant saying you had to have 2 jobs, they would say they were bold or daring.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

And the best part is people accusing Sony using it dominance to take a short cut on developement on PS3, yet that was their boldest move... and they also think Sony picked 600,00 tag out of greed on being dominant (while losing 200,00 for each console), the arrogance part can be accepted. Arrogance isn't related to domination, as there are a lot of arrogant loser dorks. When you are dominating arrogance is seem as self-confidence, if Sony had kicked everybody again no one would say they were arrogant saying you had to have 2 jobs, they would say they were bold or daring.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."