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Which is better?

Complete domination of one brand 56 32.37%
 
Fierce and close competition 98 56.65%
 
Ouya 17 9.83%
 
Total:171
Pemalite on 01 May 2014
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Pemalite said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

From a developer's standpoint yeah. But software developers aren't responsible for hardware in the PC space. That's why console can't support the PC's model yet. The loss leader model won't be satisfied by the PC model of not having to worry about it.

8th gen is basically midtier from the start and still selling on the loss leader model. I doubt console mafuacturering can be supported by the PC model.

Steam OS is a perfect example, if Sony or MS made gamingOSes rather than gaming consoles, then it would work but these wouldn't be convential consoels anyway

Of course they can, they can simply stop selling the consoles at a loss, which we are seeing this generation.

On the contrary, Nintendo is selling there console at a loss for basically the first time ever, and as for Sony and MS their consoles are at their smallest loss but considering shipping, storage, and R&D fees the console are still a loss intially.

We are already hearing complaints about how next gen isn't powerful enough, if these consoles sold for profit they would barely be improvements on last gen. With PC and Mobile gaming closing in on consoles from both sides, there is no wai consoles could survive like that. Not physical consoles any way. Somebody is going to have to pay for the hardware investment. 

You say its as easy as stopping the loss leader model, but that means more expensive consoles (the 600$ ps3 was sold at a 200$ loss, but at 800$ you could easily spend that money on a PC that will have more utility and power) or even weaker consoles, which mobile also threatens, cause its growing more powerful a lot faster than consoles can.


The Wii proved that high-end expensive loss-leading hardware wasn't a requirement for selling consoles or being successfull.

As for "Improvements" over the prior generation, even if Sony and Microsoft wen't with GPU's half as complex as they did, image quality would still increase dramatically due to gains in efficiencies (Contrary to popular belief, flops isn't an accurate denominator to gauge a platforms performance), generations would just simply have to drag on less.

Personally, console graphics have never impressed me, then again I am an enthusiast-level PC gamer with a PC that has in excess of 10X the PS4's performance, so I run all games with as much bells and whistles as possible.




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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 01 May 2014
Pemalite said:

The Wii proved that high-end expensive loss-leading hardware wasn't a requirement for selling consoles or being successfull.

As for "Improvements" over the prior generation, even if Sony and Microsoft wen't with GPU's half as complex as they did, image quality would still increase dramatically due to gains in efficiencies (Contrary to popular belief, flops isn't an accurate denominator to gauge a platforms performance), generations would just simply have to drag on less.

Personally, console graphics have never impressed me, then again I am an enthusiast-level PC gamer with a PC that has in excess of 10X the PS4's performance, so I run all games with as much bells and whistles as possible.

The only thing the Wii proved was that attracting the casual provided great success, so far its shown that its not reproducable especially since those who bought Wii because it was a hot ticket item instead of Nintendo's games have all moved to mobile, which in the interim has already dwarfed the Wii's technical capabilities.

Nowadays, something like the WIi can't even happen, there is no way a "luxury" dedicated gaming machine is going to be on par with a more powerful, more feature full, more popular, smartphone thats seen as a neccessity, even if it was exorbitantly priced.

Physical Consoles can't exists on a PC model. There is already enough stress on them as it is. Efficiency won't help one bit cause any benefits on the software side of development will affect mobile and PC development as well not to mention the fact that active development on PC and Mobile platforms in general dwarfs that of consoles. PCs become cheaper and Mobile becomes more powerful. Consoles are straddling that line, effiency or anything else that reduces cost down the board would shrink it further. It would kill consoles, but it wouldn't really benifit consumers either way, considering the prices they pay would be basically the same. However in terms of hardware, PC manufacturers would be able to take advantage of ignorance and sell people "gaming pcs".



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