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Zero999 said:

you made no point by saying "More than half of those games are trash".


It is really pathetic that you refuse to admit that you were wrong in misunderstanding or taking what I said out of context. Read again!

"I think there is a market for third party games but its very risky, especially now when their hardware is selling terribly."-Me

"What was your response? Blah Blah Blah! Third party games can sale on Nintendo's console and hundreds of them have been successful!" -You

Yeah, I get it Zero999. You agree with me. Since you agree with me. Stop arguing! As about trash, yes a lot of them are as simple cash-ins to capitalize on the Wii's success with the casual audience who are not typical gamers. People who haven't been responsible for Nintendo's success. People who are not supporting the Wii U. Developers who are publishing ports on the Wii U, releasing late versions of games, losing their exclusivity, and outright saying that their games don't sell well on Nintendo's consoles. Find something else to bicker about in there.



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Keegs79 said:
Zero999 said:

you made no point by saying "More than half of those games are trash".


It is really pathetic that you refuse to admit that you were wrong in misunderstanding or taking what I said out of context. Read again!

"I think there is a market for third party games but its very risky, especially now when their hardware is selling terribly."-Me

"What was your response? Blah Blah Blah! Third party games can sale on Nintendo's console and hundreds of them have been successful!" -You

Yeah, I get it Zero999. You agree with me. Since you agree with me. Stop arguing! As about trash, yes a lot of them are as simple cash-ins to capitalize on the Wii's success with the casual audience who are not typical gamers. People who haven't been responsible for Nintendo's success. People who are not supporting the Wii U. Developers who are publishing ports on the Wii U, releasing late versions of games, losing their exclusivity, and outright saying that their games don't sell well on Nintendo's consoles. Find something else to bicker about in there.

No, i don't agree with you. there's no "I think" there's a market, THERE IS a market just like there is a market on other consoles and it's not riskier than on other consoles. and you're still trying to downplay the wii's library. every console has cash ins but saying most of a library is cash in with no basis is pointless.



The 2 reasons thirdparty's don't support nintendo is because because of weak hardware,nintendo doesn't care about making hardware that makes third party's happy. so ports require to much money to make it work or make it run on wiiu, and 2 is they don't think it's worth the investment, meaning they don't think they will make enough money on the port or game where they will be happy. wiiu got some of the biggest third party franchises, and they all sold horrible, thirdparty's look at this and say we don't have a chance in hell if COD,AC4 and batman are sliing like garbage on the wiiu.



Zero999 said:
Keegs79 said:
Zero999 said:

I'll stop here but one last thing. "More than half of those games are trash" that's really silly and by the same logic can be said about any videogame lineup.

You have to stop. You made no point. You argued with me for no reason.

you made no point by saying "More than half of those games are trash".


A Nintendo fan once compared the Wii collection to the PS2. I laughed myself into a coma. More than half of the games were trash. Third parties were cashing in on the Wii with cheap games for casuals and non-gamers since the Wii couldn't handle last gens more graphically intensive games. COD didn't even sell on par. That just shows you that community isn't normal in the console community.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Zero999 said:

you made no point by saying "More than half of those games are trash".


A Nintendo fan once compared the Wii collection to the PS2. I laughed myself into a coma. More than half of the games were trash. Third parties were cashing in on the Wii with cheap games for casuals and non-gamers since the Wii couldn't handle last gens more graphically intensive games. COD didn't even sell on par. That just shows you that community isn't normal in the console community.

I think you just used all the imaginary arguments made up against the wii. how hard is it to admit wii is a great console with a great library?



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Zero999 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Zero999 said:

you made no point by saying "More than half of those games are trash".


A Nintendo fan once compared the Wii collection to the PS2. I laughed myself into a coma. More than half of the games were trash. Third parties were cashing in on the Wii with cheap games for casuals and non-gamers since the Wii couldn't handle last gens more graphically intensive games. COD didn't even sell on par. That just shows you that community isn't normal in the console community.

I think you just used all the imaginary arguments made up against the wii. how hard is it to admit wii is a great console with a great library?


A small portion of the library was actually competitive against the competition and most of it was first party. Nintendo actually had regrets about not having the top games on their platform and profiting off of them like their competitors. This is why when the Wii U came out late or not they actually TRIED to court third party even though they mostly failed. Reason should've told them to court them while the console was in development.



Captain_Tom said:

Why is it so hard to believe that third parties have a very valid reason for avoiding Nintendo?

This oft repeated sentence is in itself a great example of bias.



impertinence said:
Captain_Tom said:

Why is it so hard to believe that third parties have a very valid reason for avoiding Nintendo?

This oft repeated sentence is in itself a great example of bias.


He's right though, they have a valid reason.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
impertinence said:
Captain_Tom said:

Why is it so hard to believe that third parties have a very valid reason for avoiding Nintendo?

This oft repeated sentence is in itself a great example of bias.


He's right though, they have a valid reason.

A valid reason if you buy into the bias, sure. Anything can be a valid reason. "I don't want to" is a valid reason for anything, it is also heavily dependent on bias.

The statement "Third parties have a good reason to avoid Nintendo" is a steaming pile of confirmation bias.



impertinence said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
impertinence said:
Captain_Tom said:

Why is it so hard to believe that third parties have a very valid reason for avoiding Nintendo?

This oft repeated sentence is in itself a great example of bias.


He's right though, they have a valid reason.

A valid reason if you buy into the bias, sure. Anything can be a valid reason. "I don't want to" is a valid reason for anything, it is also heavily dependent on bias.

The statement "Third parties have a good reason to avoid Nintendo" is a steaming pile of confirmation bias.

Bias is prejudice of one thing or person over another. There is no prejudice if you want profit. Having no major market for your products isnt a bias.