Wow, I must have missed that part when I was reading the article(this is just copyed and pasted). I would have cut that part out. While the game does look impressive, I wouldn't compare it with the PS4.

I really have no interest in having another of these conversations with you Zero, it's boring to talk the technical sides of games with someone who bases their comments on a bias rather than common sense. If you wish to believe Nintendo are graphically ambitious with their early 7th gen AA and static flat textures, then by all means you are welcome to your opinion. But if you wish to believe that, then you'd also have to consider the likes of Ryse and inFamous as graphically phenomenal in comparison, so as to not contract the logic by which you reason.

That said, I do find it odd i was told numerous times last gen that the Wii's game looked great because of their art style, and that graphics don't matter. Suddenly that doesn't seem to be the case ^^

graphics don't matter but denying their high quality when they are, well, high quality, is pointless.

"their early 7th gen AA and static flat textures" look, wii u graphics are amazing, so are the other consoles, period. there's no need to make up stuff like this when we already have the greatest example of mario kart 8.

I'm not talking purely visually, just graphically. From an artistic stand point Nintendo are incredibly skilled, which is why MK8 looks good. Graphically (the technical side of visuals) Nintendo lack any kind of ambition. I'm still amazed they haven't moved on from basic edge detection AA >.<

It's a shame really because the WiiU is capable of quite a bit, but it's the 1st party that tends to push their hardware (as Nintendo did with the N64, GC and Wii). If Nintendo don't push their hardware, the WiiU is never going to have a truly amazing looking a game.

It's just embarassing how people respond to this, when you're explicitly breaking out technical details distict from the enjoyability of the art, which you state looks good.  If they have an argument on technical details, that should include actual technical details like textures, lighting, shadows, AA, occlusion...  But no, they will incessantly argue a topic they apprently have no interest in, because they emotionally feel it is a dig on Nintendo.   WTF?

Agreed on repurcussions of lack of 1st party ambition... Nintendo should be pushing to limit there, and sharing their work with all 3rd parties, that's how to get full optimization of Wii U across the board.  Sony did similarly with PS3.  Nintendo's games are ultimately not dependent on technical ambition, but that is not to say that they could still not benefit from it: lighting for one.  Not being dependent on it, Nintendo can freely push teams to push the limit, and if they don't achieve it 100%, that's OK the game still works fine.  But anything they do achieve can be harvested for future games.  Now Nintendo may very well see that as not ultimately being a worthwhile thing to invest in... but if so, I hope the Wii U fans can stop playing victim about how 3rd parties won't fully optimize to leverage Wii U's secret sauce.  

I'm not talking purely visually, just graphically. From an artistic stand point Nintendo are incredibly skilled, which is why MK8 looks good. Graphically (the technical side of visuals) Nintendo lack any kind of ambition. I'm still amazed they haven't moved on from basic edge detection AA >.<

It's a shame really because the WiiU is capable of quite a bit, but it's the 1st party that tends to push their hardware (as Nintendo did with the N64, GC and Wii). If Nintendo don't push their hardware, the WiiU is never going to have a truly amazing looking a game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-W_CgqQ38I

Not many Wii games actually look better than this final battle. In fact, the lightning in this level looks better than the lightning in Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze in my opinion. 

I agree with Super Smash Bros., but Super Mario 3D World looks great in my opinion. Obviously I hope the next 3D Mario looks better, but that's because it comes later in the Wii U life cycle and they have more experience with HD development now. 

I'm not talking purely visually, just graphically. From an artistic stand point Nintendo are incredibly skilled, which is why MK8 looks good. Graphically (the technical side of visuals) Nintendo lack any kind of ambition. I'm still amazed they haven't moved on from basic edge detection AA >.<

It's a shame really because the WiiU is capable of quite a bit, but it's the 1st party that tends to push their hardware (as Nintendo did with the N64, GC and Wii). If Nintendo don't push their hardware, the WiiU is never going to have a truly amazing looking a game.