So let me get this straight-

We start with-

1. A terribly received media focused reveal for a games console

2. Next they reveal horrible always online and used game policies, and top it off with an all seeing spy cam

3. Proceed with the most awful handling of the whole thing with the press and customers leading almost up to launch

4. After substantial backlash be forced to flip flop on your original intent of your product just before launch; specifically due to low preorders

And even after all of that they still have to deal with the fact that they-

1. Have inferior hardware (shown out by both exclusives and multiplats, maybe not a deal breaker but not great when your box is the more expensive one, just ask ps3!)

2. and an inflated price relative to their nearest competitor (forced to cut and bundle within the first 4 months to stay competitive and still being outsold on a global basis)

3.all due to inclusion of underutilized/underperforming peripheral that gamers could care less about and has yet to be utilized in any way other than ui functionality that can be replaced by a $20 microphone and some software.


Plus add in

a. lack of early launch advantage of 360

b. an inferior overall global games business/brand loyalty

c. lack of early indi support (dismiss them all you want but they are the new 'shovelware' of past gens and essential for success).... Sony will have a lead in this area for at least a year even if microsoft can get their shit together

d.pay walled services and inferior 'free' game offerings from your paid service

e. more stuff I haven't though of because I'm tired...etc.etc.

The best that can be said is they are improving; which they sure as hell better be!!! But they have't got a chance in hell of catching up to Sony this time from a sales perspective!


By the way none of this has anything to do with the question 'Is/will the xb1 end up a great system to own/buy?'. The answer to that is a big fat duh. Of course it is/will be! As a gamer I look forward to buying one as the library builds up and the price comes down. As a gamer I haven't met a system I did't like, and at some point I'm sure it will look great next to my ps4

Sad but I think you are right. Sad especially as Sony isn't that much better currently regarding games. I think it's the better price and the media which push PS4 sales.

walsufnir said:

Sad but I think you are right. Sad especially as Sony isn't that much better currently regarding games. I think it's the better price and the media which push PS4 sales.

I disagree with the games part that is what is selling PS4 right now.

+ Better multiplatform... CoD fans is choosing PS4, BF4 fans is choosing PS4, AC fans is choosing PS4, etc... a normal guy that want to play the multoplat games will choose PS4.

+ Indie support... some will say these are "no games" but people like them... see how much Minecraft sold on 360... you can say most indies sell close to nothing compared with AAA games but everybody will have always a Indie game that fits his tastes... so Indies matter.

+ Exlusives... the strong point of the PlayStation brand is exclusives... you can say right now Xbone have better exclusives but it is just personal opinion (I prefer the PS4 exclusives for example)... the point is everybody already knows that the first-party games will happened every year... I bought consoles mainly for Gran Turismo and it will happen early or late.

So the game front is the PS4 differential... the special sauce of PS4 are the games and they are selling PS4 right now.