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Here we have a severe case of my opinion is greater than yours because they are "facts".



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

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Titanfall - game of the generation? Ha.



Seems every thread on VGCHARTZ becomes a pissing match.



toastboy44562 said:

-"Works with Microsoft and Xbox for exclusivity" this doesn't matter to Nintendo, PC, or Sony Gamers.

-"Brought us Titanfall (game of the generation)" Way too early to call any game "game of the generation".

-"Knows which platforms to build for to make the most profit" This doesn't matter much too core gamers

-"Owns perhaps the most IPs and has a wide range of Genres" yet they don't do anything with most of them and they killed most of them anyways 

-"Most games have at least decent quality (mass effect, titanfall, sim city, sports games, battlefield, star wars battlefront etc.)" this i will give you

"I know they have had server issues but those are all fixed. I do not know why you guys hate them. They are great!" Battlefield 4 and Mass Effect 3 would like a word with you cause they rush their games big time

Edit: They are no lionhead, epic games, naughtydawg, or rockstar but they are about as good as ubisoft or anyone else


now its your turn 



fatslob-:O said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
EA has the same temperament as Microsoft. Their ethic is the same. Keep as much control over their product as possible and milk as many of their top IP's as possible.

@Bold And who wouldn't want to milk their top IPs ? Everybody in the industry is doing it ... If Sony had an IP that came close to call of duty they would milk the shit out of it and the same goes for Nintendo. Activision is obviously doing it. EA has sports games to milk. Ubisoft is doing this with assassin's creed. Konami is squeezing the shit out of metal gear. Capcom is taking the life out of street fighter. Square Enix is trying to dry the shit out of Final Fantasy. Sega ain't even giving that pitiful hedgehog a break. Tecmo Koei keeps pushing out more dynasty warriors. 

Almost everybody is doing it STAGE, now tell us something we don't know ... 


MS aren't producing nearly as many new things that stick as they are milking over and over again. EA is the same way. Nintendo hasn't created a new IP in quite a while and Sony, well Sony keeps making new risking it all on new IP's and milking ones that stick.



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toastboy44562 said:

-Works with Microsoft and Xbox for exclusivity

-Brought us Titanfall (game of the generation)

-Knows which platforms to build for to make the most profit

-Owns perhaps the most IPs and has a wide range of Genres

-Most games have at least decent quality (mass effect, titanfall, sim city, sports games, battlefield, star wars battlefront etc.)

I know they have had server issues but those are all fixed. I do not know why you guys hate them. They are great!

Edit: They are no lionhead, epic games, naughtydawg, or rockstar but they are about as good as ubisoft or anyone else

Knows which platforms to build IP to make the most profit??? LAst gen they went with ps3 (Exclusive DLC), should have been xbox, then they switch to x1, should have been PS4, they totally mis-read the market and gamers LMAO. They are already kicking themself for titanfall exclusivity, Tf2 won't be exclusive.

 

They never work with just MS, they did early this gen becauise they made bad assumptions. That won't continue.

 

They often rush out games (Brokenfield 4, Dragon age II, Me 3, Sim City), and their games are filled with microtransactions and terrible DLC like skins, weapon packs, day 1.

 

They started the Online passes.

 

EA is everything that's wrong with modern corporate gaming.

 

Hliarious how you mention quality and Sim city, that game was and is a disaster of epic proportions. They lied to everyone and ruined waht was a famed PC franchise.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
fatslob-:O said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
EA has the same temperament as Microsoft. Their ethic is the same. Keep as much control over their product as possible and milk as many of their top IP's as possible.

@Bold And who wouldn't want to milk their top IPs ? Everybody in the industry is doing it ... If Sony had an IP that came close to call of duty they would milk the shit out of it and the same goes for Nintendo. Activision is obviously doing it. EA has sports games to milk. Ubisoft is doing this with assassin's creed. Konami is squeezing the shit out of metal gear. Capcom is taking the life out of street fighter. Square Enix is trying to dry the shit out of Final Fantasy. Sega ain't even giving that pitiful hedgehog a break. Tecmo Koei keeps pushing out more dynasty warriors. 

Almost everybody is doing it STAGE, now tell us something we don't know ... 


MS aren't producing nearly as many new things that stick as they are milking over and over again. EA is the same way. Nintendo hasn't created a new IP in quite a while and Sony, well Sony keeps making new risking it all on new IP's and milking ones that stick.

And what new things has others produced aside from ubisoft that actually sticked, STAGE ? Nintendo hasn't created a new IP, eh ? Then what in the hell are the WII games ? Sony is also guilty for milking shit too such as god of war.

What makes Sony different from the rest of the fellow trash publishers ? 



MTZehvor said:

You quite literally claimed two posts ago that you didn't need to defend it, and now you're arguing that you've been defending it the entire time?

Your flip-flopping puts a sandal selling convention to shame.

Three posts ago, not two.  Also, I said I wasn't going to reply, as I was being courteous rather than just completely ignoring your reply, but after yoru bs comment I've got to reply. 

The very post thatt I stated "why should I defend the game," I pointed out three things about the game, several that you commented about being a bad quality of the game.  You ignored most of the comments I made, brushed off others.  Previously I also said things in the games defense.  I didn't go in depth about it, but I made comments about it.  I'll quote them, you can go back through the replies and see them yourself.

"Dead Space 2 was actually pretty shooter heavy and everyone praised as such a remarkable game, Dead Space 3 is only a bit more of a shooter than Dead Space 2 is.  Co op was added to the mix so people could play two player.  Heaven forbid Visceral allowing players to enjoy a great game with a friend."  You did reply to being barely more of a shooter than the second, but you stuck to it being too much of a shooter.  You completely brushed off my comment about co op. 

"harder modes on Dead Space 3 reduce amount of ammo you pick up and there's a survival option which ammunition and health can only be created at the bench."   You didn't acknowledge this.

"Also yes, you use a single ammunition type in Dead Space 3, and the reason for that is literally how many different weapons  you can actually combine.  Having different ammunition for each would be a bit much, so they decided to go with a single ammunition type.  "  You didn't acknowledge this.

"None of the poor reviews ever say it's gameplay is specifically bad, just that it's a shooter and let's whine and bitch about it, blah blah blah, here's a 7/10. "  You didn't acknowledge this.

"Dead Space started out as a shooter in the very first one and it just became more of a shooter in Dead Space 3.  I mean do you really want to see a third game in a row where Isaac is shooting aliens in the dark?  I didn't.  If it was that all over again I would have just played Dead Space 2 again because it'd have been a third time in a row where they're in the same environment yet again."  You made a comment two posts later not directed towards this, but when I already stated this, I wasn't going to make my statement again.  It's before I said I'm not going to reply.

So yeah.  I did point things out about it that defended gameplay mechanics and the level design.  You just chose to overlook them.  Purposefully to win your argument, who knows.  Or you just spun whatever I said to make your side of the argument look good.  Between the series never being much of a survival horror series to begin with and two posts ago where I stated unreasonable expectations of it being a survival horror game and then you make the comment "because the previous ones were survival horror."  The previous Resident Evil titles weren't a constant barrage of bullets and explosions.  Your post makes you look like as much of a hypocrite as the journalists.  Giving one game a free pass when the series goes from complete survival horror to shooter when the next one goes from shooter with a semblance of survival horror to shooter. 



EA has been garbage as of late.



kupomogli said:
MTZehvor said:

You quite literally claimed two posts ago that you didn't need to defend it, and now you're arguing that you've been defending it the entire time?

Your flip-flopping puts a sandal selling convention to shame.

Three posts ago, not two.  Also, I said I wasn't going to reply, as I was being courteous rather than just completely ignoring your reply, but after yoru bs comment I've got to reply. 

The very post thatt I stated "why should I defend the game," I pointed out three things about the game, several that you commented about being a bad quality of the game.  You ignored most of the comments I made, brushed off others.  Previously I also said things in the games defense.  I didn't go in depth about it, but I made comments about it.  I'll quote them, you can go back through the replies and see them yourself.

"Dead Space 2 was actually pretty shooter heavy and everyone praised as such a remarkable game, Dead Space 3 is only a bit more of a shooter than Dead Space 2 is.  Co op was added to the mix so people could play two player.  Heaven forbid Visceral allowing players to enjoy a great game with a friend."  You did reply to being barely more of a shooter than the second, but you stuck to it being too much of a shooter.  You completely brushed off my comment about co op. 

"harder modes on Dead Space 3 reduce amount of ammo you pick up and there's a survival option which ammunition and health can only be created at the bench."   You didn't acknowledge this.

"Also yes, you use a single ammunition type in Dead Space 3, and the reason for that is literally how many different weapons  you can actually combine.  Having different ammunition for each would be a bit much, so they decided to go with a single ammunition type.  "  You didn't acknowledge this.

"None of the poor reviews ever say it's gameplay is specifically bad, just that it's a shooter and let's whine and bitch about it, blah blah blah, here's a 7/10. "  You didn't acknowledge this.

"Dead Space started out as a shooter in the very first one and it just became more of a shooter in Dead Space 3.  I mean do you really want to see a third game in a row where Isaac is shooting aliens in the dark?  I didn't.  If it was that all over again I would have just played Dead Space 2 again because it'd have been a third time in a row where they're in the same environment yet again."  You made a comment two posts later not directed towards this, but when I already stated this, I wasn't going to make my statement again.  It's before I said I'm not going to reply.

So yeah.  I did point things out about it that defended gameplay mechanics and the level design.  You just chose to overlook them.  Purposefully to win your argument, who knows.  Or you just spun whatever I said to make your side of the argument look good.  Between the series never being much of a survival horror series to begin with and two posts ago where I stated unreasonable expectations of it being a survival horror game and then you make the comment "because the previous ones were survival horror."  The previous Resident Evil titles weren't a constant barrage of bullets and explosions.  Your post makes you look like as much of a hypocrite as the journalists.  Giving one game a free pass when the series goes from complete survival horror to shooter when the next one goes from shooter with a semblance of survival horror to shooter. 

#1: Saying it had co-op had, quite literally, nothing at all to do with our argument. I never once criticized it for being co-op. Nor does including cooperative mode somehow make it a better game, which is the topic at hand. So this is completely irrelevant.

#2: I responded to this with my points about atmosphere. I repeatedly discussed how simple ammo scarcity is by no means the only thing that makes a horror game "horrifying." Saying there's a "hard mode" with less ammo does not make an already not scary game and turn it into something scary, at least no more than Halo 3 is a horror game with less health and less ammo in weapons on higher difficulties.

#3: ...this was meant as a serious defense of the game?

Here, let me read this back to you.

"The game developers made a poor design choice, so we had to make this bad gameplay choice in order to keep the previous poor choice from completely ruining the experience."

That isn't a defense. That's simply saying that the situation is bad, just not quite as bad as it could be. There's still a problem, and one inherent to the developer's choice in the first place.

#4: Again, this is a defense? What reviewers say?

I guess Other M is also a great game, and Skyward Sword is the best Zelda of all time. 

And, besides, this claim is a completely false one above all else. Take a look at this review, if you don't believe me. Or this one. Or this one. Or this one. Or this one. All of which critcize the combat, along with newly directed focus on action.

And I don't remember #5 at all, but whatever. In regards to that, no, quite honestly, I'd prefer not to have another game with the exact same plotline as the first. In fact, I think Dead Space worked quite well as a stand alone game. But I'll say that I would much rather prefer another survival horror with a similar plot and setting than the three hundredth addition to the gritty third person shooter genre.

And lastly, you've got some mistaken idea in your head that I'm some major advocate of the Resident Evil series. I'm not. Pretty much every Resident Evil game outside of 4 and Revelations is, at best, mediocre, and at worst awful. 4 is decent, for at least trying to be survival horror and realizing that no one takes the Resident Evil seriously, and Revelations does a good job of pretty much everything except for the parts where it makes you go along with a partner character...which is way too much of the game.

I've criticized the heck out of the Resident Evil games in the past. I was in this exact same spot when Resident Evil 6 came out, arguing that it was another misstep in the series.