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Yeah she's from the OC and now she's on a show called Heart of Dixie. Her name is Rachel Bilson. 

You had to deal with the "worst sore losers" because you were one of the most, if not the most, inflammatory gaming YouTube channel out there. Constantly calling people "dead last" "last place bitch" (let's be real, Mr. MLD), being a hypocrite ("sales don't matter, the meta is better" (Forza vs GT); "meta don't matter, the sales are better" (Gears vs Uncharted)), etc. won't exactly illicit the best responses from people......

Value wise it is a better value there is no denying that when you look at the deals. Of course it boils down to opinion and what someone wants. But as far as the value/cost goes if you were to put the PS4 next to this XB1 deal then it is better. No need to argue about it or bring up the past when the PS3 had the better value/cost because it was also true for the PS4 back then.

Just because this isn't making the XB1 SELL better than the PS4, it DOES NOT mean that it is an incorrect statement...geez some defensive folks around here lol....and this is coming from a Sony fan lol.

Hey they didn't have to watch and me doing my thing was only in response to PS2 domination. The circle of life...lol guess I just have to wait another gen to get my turn again. But I learned that many fans truly do place their own self worth on how well something they are passionate about does in the real world. Hence now you see many people play the sales card with much glee, despite the value X1 has at the moment. Truly fascinating business with the psychological effects and the see-saw effect.

Nobody here is acting defensive from my side ... It's a known fact that value is determined by consumers. You really can't analyse by price but rather you have to do it by market demand. 

Eh, so I can buy the PS4 and buy a game that I PICK for 460$ and actually play at 1080p or pay 450$ to get a game I do not want at 720p and get a camera I do not want? Tough choice.....

Specs > Kinect. I kinda feel sorry for anyone who disputes that.

No you see that in itself is defensive. The Vita has alot going for it. Better hardware, PS Plus free games, and solid games library. I can say that the Vita is a better value then the 3ds. Doesn't change that the 3ds is kicking its ass. Consumers decide what wins, value is a completely different aspect. You assume consumers think rationally. Many tablets do what a Ipad can do for hundreds cheaper, yet Ipad beasts them all. Brand mindshare, bandwagon hopping, etc. is very much different from the value a product actually poses.

Just admit your playing the see-saw effect. I get it, its your turn to brag so don't pretend to have any "logic" behind your argument. Just say what we are all thinking: "PS4 is selling better and therefore your argument is invalid". It's ok, I was there and now its your turn. But dont pretend to add any substance to your response when there is none.

People don't understand that spec will benefit everybody that bought the machine at end but Kinect just a part of the users and not everybody.