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The best thing for Sony wouldn't be to branch PS off, but to be taken over by another Japanese giant, that should cut what is losing too much money and possibly join Sony monitors and TVs with another brand to keep the former alive as premium brand of the latter, with the necessary synergies and production volumes to achieve economies of scale and keep costs under control, without Sony needing to stay anymore in the lower market segments, where it can't really compete. The same could apply to optical drives, audio-video and PCs. Probably this way the new owner shouldn't cut any Sony division, but simply ditch their low ranges that would be reserved to the other electronics brand it alreaddy owns. There are many Japanese keiretsus powerful and rich enough, in a good relationship with Sony, and owning well known electronics brands that have a good reputation for quality but aren't luxury brands, so the sinergy could work quite well. It would also be good for the whole Japanese economy, as with Sony in a quite bad shape it's giving away to Samsung and Korea large shares of a very profitable market segment without fighting effectively.



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Well if say Samsung bought the PS division, nothing would change essentially.

But the fans wouldn't like the "change of management". It would be considered losing the war from my perspective, that Sony abandoned their fans.



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Zekkyou said:
selnor1983 said:
I think sony will keep playstation. I think by 2017 sony will have 1 3rd less first party studiosa nd less exclusives asa result, but sony wil keep. Playstation will be a shadow of its former self by gens end.

It seems pretty unlikely it would becomes a shadow of its former self at the same time it was started to thrive again :P

In fairness though, many people believed the PS3 would be their last console, so i suppose the doom predictions being reduced to "a shadow of its former self" is a pretty good sign for their future ^^

I believeby 2017 Sony wil have 1/3rd less sttudios and alot of the talent ( which is already happeing ) will go elsewhere. All at a time MS are creating more studios and hiring more staff. Microsot will release an have more exclusives regularly by 2017. They will simply have more projects ad more deveopers.
They are already hiring employees leaving Sony.

 



kowenicki said:
If it was stand alone then it would struggle. It simply doesn't make enough consistent profit. Playstation relies heavily on the cross subsidy, expertise, research capability and manufacturing facilities that Sony can provide.

If it was taken up by a 3rd party then it would depend on the 3rd parties intentions. Samsung for instance could bank roll it even better than Sony can so I don't think you'd see any difference. But any new owner wouldn't be as emotionally attached to the Playstation brand and would likely want it to be much more efficient.


Isnt this somewhat of a sad thing?  I mean how is it fair for any kind of business when  lets say Your competition has unlimited money because other divisions help out? You on the other hand have to rely on your own? Or are forced to sell 49% if your company or whatever?

  This should actually be illegal because start ups and small companies get killed by juggernauts with cash.

There is some laws that prevent you from subsidizing your goods because thats destroying the market and will ruin small companies that cannot do the same thing as long as you can. (when I sell my 60" TVs for $200 for a year noone will buy the competitions TVs during that year and they will die mwhahahaha)
But why is it allowed that one branch of a company is funding another one? Thats exactly as unfair as subsidizing your products untill your competition goes bakrupt.

IMO If any company/branch  cant stand on its own feet then it should simply vanish.  Everyone should have equal chances. The way it is now is just stupid.

This also applies to companies being able to buy other companies with no connection to their type of business.
Lets say you came up with an idea how to make holograms and make the mistake of talking about it way to early then big companies will start to pay attention and you will automatically fail because you will either be bought by a huge random company (when you agree to be bought) OR you will get destroyed by it (when you decline their offer) they just pump millions into RnD and then will most likely release their product before your 10-people-team was able to and their marketing will do the rest.

Also is the reason why solar panel companies all over the world go bankrupt. China as a state is subsidizing its own solar panel companies and small companies in europe etc cannot compete with China.






Depends how much Sony will leech of PS before it sells it off. Sony will most likely destroy PS before its sold. What I mean by destroy is they will remove just about everything from PS (Staff/Inhouse companies/Projects etc for every penny. Once there's nothing less that's valuable they will sell it. SO I don't see a bright light at the end of the tunnel for PS until another company rebuilds it, which could take years.



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selnor1983 said:

I believeby 2017 Sony wil have 1/3rd less sttudios and alot of the talent ( which is already happeing ) will go elsewhere. All at a time MS are creating more studios and hiring more staff. Microsot will release an have more exclusives regularly by 2017. They will simply have more projects ad more deveopers.
They are already hiring employees leaving Sony.

I doubt it to be honest. Sony's 1st party has done nothing but grow for the last 3 gens, and with the PS4 thriving it seems unlikely they would suddenly choose to greatly reduce it. I'd agree they will likely have less overall studios, but i also think they will have more large ones. They are in the middle of a company wise restructuring, so it's only natural some of the fat gets cut off. A restructuring of successful parts of a business is about making them more efficient, but retaining their same productivity.

No doubt we will see some of the smaller less productive studios close, but past i'd expect their total number of major studios to haven grown by 2017 (based on the last two decades :p)

Anyway, as i said i find your prediction quite uplifting. You can often get a sense of how a product is doing by how the fans of it's competition act towards it. I haven't seen a single doom thread about the PS4 so far, so going from definite and impending death to only mild discomfort is a great summary of how well the PS4 is doing ^^



selnor1983 said:
Zekkyou said:
selnor1983 said:
I think sony will keep playstation. I think by 2017 sony will have 1 3rd less first party studiosa nd less exclusives asa result, but sony wil keep. Playstation will be a shadow of its former self by gens end.

It seems pretty unlikely it would becomes a shadow of its former self at the same time it was started to thrive again :P

In fairness though, many people believed the PS3 would be their last console, so i suppose the doom predictions being reduced to "a shadow of its former self" is a pretty good sign for their future ^^

I believeby 2017 Sony wil have 1/3rd less sttudios and alot of the talent ( which is already happeing ) will go elsewhere. All at a time MS are creating more studios and hiring more staff. Microsot will release an have more exclusives regularly by 2017. They will simply have more projects ad more deveopers.
They are already hiring employees leaving Sony.

 

And? I've seen Sony hiring people from Microsoft as well. This happens constantly in the game industry. I was hoping after two consecutive bans you would quit with all the FUD but I guess not. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

The 3rd parties depend mostly on Sony since they sell their games more on PS, followed by a close second place to XB and then a distant by PC and then Nintendo at last. That being said, both Xbox and Playstation are the pillars to videogame industry as an independent one at that.

That is the reason I can't see both, XB and PS, being sold or whatever, mainly because they ARE essential to the whole industry atm, with practically no competitors. Let's be frank, Nintendo relies on their games and the PC wouldn't see any AAA games if they weren't made for consoles first.  ~except some FPSs~

And to resume, no, PS is not for sale since it's one of the most profitable divisions of Sony and one that the whole industry relies on.



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Zekkyou said:
selnor1983 said:

I believeby 2017 Sony wil have 1/3rd less sttudios and alot of the talent ( which is already happeing ) will go elsewhere. All at a time MS are creating more studios and hiring more staff. Microsot will release an have more exclusives regularly by 2017. They will simply have more projects ad more deveopers.
They are already hiring employees leaving Sony.

I doubt it to be honest. Sony's 1st party has done nothing but grow for the last 3 gens, and with the PS4 thriving it seems unlikely they would suddenly choose to greatly reduce it. I'd agree they will likely have less overall studios, but i also think they will have more large ones. They are in the middle of a company wise restructuring, so it's only natural some of the fat gets cut off. A restructuring of successful parts of a business is about making them more efficient, but retaining their same productivity.

No doubt we will see some of the smaller less productive studios close, but past i'd expect their total number of major studios to haven grown by 2017 (based on the last two decades :p)

Anyway, as i said i find your prediction quite uplifting. You can often get a sense of how a product is doing by how the fans of it's competition act towards it. I haven't seen a single doom thread about the PS4 so far, so going from definite and impending death to only mild discomfort is a great summary of how well the PS4 is doing ^^

Theres alot more to it than restructuring. THey have huge debt to pay off, and that requires more alot lt more than PS4 doing good forr 4 months. Its business and this will go on for Sony for 5 years or so. I sid whats happening now wold happen.  said it 6 months ago and got rediculed. I also called Driveclub last year to. I predict exclusive wise Playstationwil have alt less at E3 in comparison to MS. I actually think games will hurt PS4 as time goes on.



Fusioncode said:
selnor1983 said:
Zekkyou said:
selnor1983 said:
I think sony will keep playstation. I think by 2017 sony will have 1 3rd less first party studiosa nd less exclusives asa result, but sony wil keep. Playstation will be a shadow of its former self by gens end.

It seems pretty unlikely it would becomes a shadow of its former self at the same time it was started to thrive again :P

In fairness though, many people believed the PS3 would be their last console, so i suppose the doom predictions being reduced to "a shadow of its former self" is a pretty good sign for their future ^^

I believeby 2017 Sony wil have 1/3rd less sttudios and alot of the talent ( which is already happeing ) will go elsewhere. All at a time MS are creating more studios and hiring more staff. Microsot will release an have more exclusives regularly by 2017. They will simply have more projects ad more deveopers.
They are already hiring employees leaving Sony.

 

And? I've seen Sony hiring people from Microsoft as well. This happens constantly in the game industry. I was hoping after two consecutive bans you would quit with all the FUD but I guess not. 

your breaking forum rules. Attacking a user.

Im talking from a business perspective. Sony is in Huge debt. Thats a fact. There Will be less studios over the nxt few years. More studio  closes and cuts wll be made yet. Over th next 3 years.