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Forums - Sales - Nintendo have now lost the UK/US to Microsoft/Xbox all 3 times.

Seece said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:
Seece said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:
Seece said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:
tbone51 said:

Well yeah, but 99% of your threads with nintendo are.... Yeahhhhh Why only concentrate on WiiU? Why not do ps4-X1 comparisons? Just saying

One makes the X1 look good one makes it look bad.

OT: This isn't really surprising that the Xbox's home country and another that is known to be anti Nintendo has better Xbox sales.  

An Anti Nintendo country? Why did it sell 8.6m consoles there last gen then?

Wii is the exception not the rule, where did that thing not sell well?  Anyway mostly casuals bought that and its obvious casuals have no loyatly or distain towards either of the big 3, they'll buy anything "mainstream." (for lack of a better word)

And the DS and 3DS, ratio of 1:5 same as 360/XB1 are UK/US? And Gamecube?

Literally the only piece of 'evidence' you have is WiiU.

Handhelds are nowhere near the same thing as consoles,  a huge portion of DS and 3DS sales are to kids, aka casuals, which I have already explained.  

So Uk isn't anti Nintendo? It's Anti home console that isn't Wii and Gamecube Nintendo. Gotcha.

Also, what has Xbox being made in US got to do with anything? PS2 slaughtered Xbox there, and PS4 is beating XB1 there, and Wii beat 360 for most of its life/heyday there ...

I in no way insinuated anything like that, idk where you got that from.  Also you have not provided Gamecube numbers and stated there are no exact figures and yet you just said it sold well there.  If your gonna downplay the effect of console sales in its home country then there really is no point in continuing this, have a nice day.  



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Seece threads are much more interesting than other stupid threads which don't use facts. I don't care if he has a agenda or not, at least the content of his threads invite one to discuss, which is something you can't say about topics claiming Bravely Default is the best JRPG just because it's on their favorite system for example.



KingdomHeartsFan said:
Seece said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:
Seece said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:
Seece said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:
tbone51 said:

Well yeah, but 99% of your threads with nintendo are.... Yeahhhhh Why only concentrate on WiiU? Why not do ps4-X1 comparisons? Just saying

One makes the X1 look good one makes it look bad.

OT: This isn't really surprising that the Xbox's home country and another that is known to be anti Nintendo has better Xbox sales.  

An Anti Nintendo country? Why did it sell 8.6m consoles there last gen then?

Wii is the exception not the rule, where did that thing not sell well?  Anyway mostly casuals bought that and its obvious casuals have no loyatly or distain towards either of the big 3, they'll buy anything "mainstream." (for lack of a better word)

And the DS and 3DS, ratio of 1:5 same as 360/XB1 are UK/US? And Gamecube?

Literally the only piece of 'evidence' you have is WiiU.

Handhelds are nowhere near the same thing as consoles,  a huge portion of DS and 3DS sales are to kids, aka casuals, which I have already explained.  

So Uk isn't anti Nintendo? It's Anti home console that isn't Wii and Gamecube Nintendo. Gotcha.

Also, what has Xbox being made in US got to do with anything? PS2 slaughtered Xbox there, and PS4 is beating XB1 there, and Wii beat 360 for most of its life/heyday there ...

I in no way insinuated anything like that, idk where you got that from.  Also you have not provided Gamecube numbers and stated there are no exact figures and yet you just said it sold well there.  If your gonna downplay the effect of console sales in its home country then there really is no point in continuing this, have a nice day.  

But that's what you're saying. UK is anti nintendo when you take away handhelds and the consoles that sold well. That's called cherrypicking because you have no argument.

Also, how did the advantage of being made in the US help Xbox vs PS2?? How is it helping it beat PS4? ect? It's just a ridiculous response to whenever Xbox seems to be winning at the time 'home console advantage' yet when they lose all goes quite on the western front ...



 

bubblegamer said:
Seece threads are much more interesting than other stupid threads which don't use facts. I don't care if he has a agenda or not, at least the content of his threads invite one to discuss, which is something you can't say about topics claiming Bravely Default is the best JRPG just because it's on their favorite system for example.


Thanks man, I appreciate that!!



 

I knew it was a seece thread also before i clicked it because his name is after the thread title >.



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To be fair, the 360 launched an entire year earlier than the Wii and was badly behind it in aligned launch for many months.

Seece doesn't seem to care to recall that Nintendo dominates the handheld market while MS literally has done nothing there.

To say that Nintendo has 'lost' regions of support 3 consecutive times in a row is a gross exaggeration.

It goes more like tie, early Nintendo win, late MS win, MS taking the lead.



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fleischr said:
To be fair, the 360 launched an entire year earlier than the Wii and was badly behind it in aligned launch for many months.

Seece doesn't seem to care to recall that Nintendo dominates the handheld market while MS literally has done nothing there.

To say that Nintendo has 'lost' regions of support 3 consecutive times in a row is a gross exaggeration.

It goes more like tie, early Nintendo win, late MS win, MS taking the lead.


It's not though is it? I mean lets not even get started on software sales where 360 overtook the Wii in the US a long time ago.



 

We'll deserved, Nintendo has grown stale with us western gamers!



RolStoppable said:
It's largely meaningless.

1. The first Xbox racked up losses in the range of $4 billion to beat the GC by about 3m units worldwide. This easily secured Microsoft a spot in the top 3 failures of video game history. If you are ever in need of an example for a pyrrhic victory, the Xbox vs. GC fulfills that purpose formidably.

2. The 360 was eight years on the market before its successor was released, the Wii only six years. Not only did the Wii accumulate its sales faster, it was also significantly more profitable.

3. The Wii U will go down in history as one of Nintendo's most idiotic decisions. Analogy: If the year was 1990, then Nintendo would have launched the SNES with an Atari joystick look-alike instead of the actual SNES controller that was an evolution of the NES controller. Outselling the Wii U is no achievement.

4. Here is the real kicker: The Xbox franchise didn't come into existence to beat Nintendo. The real enemy goes by the name of PlayStation. Xbox vs. PS2 was a brutal defeat for Microsoft, 360 vs. PS3 was only a battle because Sony messed up so spectacularly (PS4 sales show how little Sony would have had to do to stay ahead of Microsoft; essentially, a $400 system), One vs. PS4 is going to be another massacre.

5. And to make this post go full circle: Nintendo is still around and they will continue to stay around, so being outsold by Xbox in a couple of countries is largely meaningless.

what does the halo studio got to do with this?



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I'm not even touching that rol, have you got so bored you just state the blatant obvious these days? MS didn't create Xbox to combat Nintendo?? REALLY?!

Revelation.

Facts are facts tho (op) meaningless or not Nintendo can't beat MS in the homespace in the west no matter what approach they try.