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Mythmaker1 said:
Eliseo104 said:
Mythmaker1 said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
kowenicki said:
This again.

That is not even close to how it actually works in the real world.

Dumb article.



Please enlighten us on how the real world ACTUALLY works, please? I'm very curious to know.

For starters, it helps to use recent statistics, instead of figures from 3 years ago...

Do you have the recent statistics?, I'd like to know.

Figures from last year:

 http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/130424e.pdf

Figures from two months ago, though Q3 rather than fiscal year, so not as good for comparison:

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2014/140129e.pdf

And this proves that Nintendo, infact, doesn't have enough cash in the bank? Is this how the world actually works?



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Nem said:

I´m gonna be honest. If there was an industry company i would like to work on, its Nintendo. They give their workers stability and the result are clear with great game after great game.

They are a hit and miss company, but with this financial fortitude they can survive until they hit again.

Holy fucking bomba, you, of all people, would only work...FOR NINTENDO? eh gasp.
Your points are valid but still, shocking!



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QuintonMcLeod said:
Mythmaker1 said:

Figures from last year:

 http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/130424e.pdf

Figures from two months ago, though Q3 rather than fiscal year, so not as good for comparison:

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2014/140129e.pdf

And this proves that Nintendo, infact, doesn't have enough cash in the bank? Is this how the world actually works?

No, but it shows that trying to predict a company's longevity using their cash reserves (which as those links show can fluctuate wildly from year to year) rather than analyzing their business model makes very little sense.



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Areym said:
Nem said:

I´m gonna be honest. If there was an industry company i would like to work on, its Nintendo. They give their workers stability and the result are clear with great game after great game.

They are a hit and miss company, but with this financial fortitude they can survive until they hit again.

Holy fucking bomba, you, of all people, would only work...FOR NINTENDO? eh gasp.
Your points are valid but still, shocking!


Hmm... maybe i worded that wrong. I mean that Nintendo gives better work place stability. Not that i wouldnt work on one of the other if i had the chance... though i would struggle to work on Microsoft as i dont like to be disonest or coersive towards customers. I believe honestly is the best way to earn their fidelity.

But, i'm confused as to why you thought it was that shocking.



Mythmaker1 said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
Mythmaker1 said:

Figures from last year:

 http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/130424e.pdf

Figures from two months ago, though Q3 rather than fiscal year, so not as good for comparison:

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2014/140129e.pdf

And this proves that Nintendo, infact, doesn't have enough cash in the bank? Is this how the world actually works?

No, but it shows that trying to predict a company's longevity using their cash reserves (which as those links show can fluctuate wildly from year to year) rather than analyzing their business model makes very little sense.

Ah, ok. So, using your logic here (which I'm not saying is bad), I can safely assume with the utmost accuracy, that Sony will go bankrupt very soon. I mean, Sony has no money in the bank and they've been bleeding cash for a decade now. 

Hmm.... Now I think I understand how the real world actually works. Thanks, buddy!



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movement in cash doesn't equal net profits/losses



QuintonMcLeod said:
Mythmaker1 said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
Mythmaker1 said:

Figures from last year:

 http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/130424e.pdf

Figures from two months ago, though Q3 rather than fiscal year, so not as good for comparison:

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2014/140129e.pdf

And this proves that Nintendo, infact, doesn't have enough cash in the bank? Is this how the world actually works?

No, but it shows that trying to predict a company's longevity using their cash reserves (which as those links show can fluctuate wildly from year to year) rather than analyzing their business model makes very little sense.

Ah, ok. So, using your logic here (which I'm not saying is bad), I can safely assume with the utmost accuracy, that Sony will go bankrupt very soon. I mean, Sony has no money in the bank and they've been bleeding cash for a decade now. 

Hmm.... Now I think I understand how the real world actually works. Thanks, buddy!

Sony hes been bleeding cash for way to long and with the promising Playstation 4 sales and cutting off the worst divisions is a good sign for a brighter future. Still, I don't think Sony will ever go bankrupt, because the government won't let it happen. Way to many people are working for Sony or Japanese companies are depended on Sony's orders. 



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QuintonMcLeod said:
Mythmaker1 said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
Mythmaker1 said:

Figures from last year:

 http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/130424e.pdf

Figures from two months ago, though Q3 rather than fiscal year, so not as good for comparison:

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2014/140129e.pdf

And this proves that Nintendo, infact, doesn't have enough cash in the bank? Is this how the world actually works?

No, but it shows that trying to predict a company's longevity using their cash reserves (which as those links show can fluctuate wildly from year to year) rather than analyzing their business model makes very little sense.

Ah, ok. So, using your logic here (which I'm not saying is bad), I can safely assume with the utmost accuracy, that Sony will go bankrupt very soon. I mean, Sony has no money in the bank and they've been bleeding cash for a decade now. 

Hmm.... Now I think I understand how the real world actually works. Thanks, buddy!

But Sony is a much larger company when it comes to physical assets and ip, so while Sony is losing money, it can afford to shrink for longer than what Nintendo could. ie, Sony has plenty more divisions, assets and IP that they could sell to service debt and maintain available cash. Not saying that is a good approach or that Sony is fine (it isn't) but its more complicated than just cash versus debt. 



kowenicki said:
This again.

That is not even close to how it actually works in the real world.

Dumb article.


 

Another company with a big money reserve was BlackBerry 4 years ago and now even the new CEO said that the chances of saving the company are 50/50 when he assumed last year.



QuintonMcLeod said:
Mythmaker1 said:

No, but it shows that trying to predict a company's longevity using their cash reserves (which as those links show can fluctuate wildly from year to year) rather than analyzing their business model makes very little sense.

Ah, ok. So, using your logic here (which I'm not saying is bad), I can safely assume with the utmost accuracy, that Sony will go bankrupt very soon. I mean, Sony has no money in the bank and they've been bleeding cash for a decade now. 

Hmm.... Now I think I understand how the real world actually works. Thanks, buddy!

I've poked through Nintendo's financials in the past, but I've never given much attention to Sony's. Most of what I know about their financial situation is second or third hand, so I'm probably not in a position to say.

With that said, it sounds like you're trying to predict Sony's longeviry using their cash reserves, rather than analyzing their business.



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