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osed125 on 05 March 2014
padib said:
Somini said:

You don't watch anime i'm guessing, right? If yes, you should give Death Note a try and see for yourself what kind of drama a japanese mind can conjure up.

There are a few exceptions of anime that I liked (Spirited Away), but in general I find anime sappy. Not the level of something like Game of Thrones for example.

I realize it's just my taste, but I'm sure there are experts who could dissect them and show how one compares to the other.

I've never seen deathnote, but something tells me I might not like it. Feel free to post on my wall some more about the story so I can get interested in it.

There are some anime and manga that are very deep in a psychological way. Monster and 20th Century Boys are (imo) better than many things Hollywood has come up with, but recently, anime has basically become a place for purely fan service. Very rarely I see an anime with a deep and emotional story. Or if they aren't fan service, is extreme gore without any real purpose....I miss the good old days of anime and manga.



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DonFerrari on 05 March 2014

What a load of prejudice and ignorance padib can put in one comment, couldn't expect better since I saw him trying to discredit evolutionary theory and pass "inteligent design" as a better and more proved theory.



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Xen on 05 March 2014
osed125 said:
Somini said:
padib said:

His intention is right, but he will never succeed because it is not in his DNA as a japanese game maker. Movies and Novels are great thanks to great narratives and profound characters and dialogue.

This is not something video game designer, especially those from Japan, are known for.

Sure there are exceptions, but they are exceptions.

If you want to make a game that has the impact of a great book or movie, read great books and watch great movies, then hire excellent literary staff and make a great piece. Otherwise, keep dreaming.

You don't watch anime i'm guessing, right? If yes, you should give Death Note a try and see for yourself what kind of drama a japanese mind can conjure up.

The last half of Death Note is a piece of sh*t. 

OT: 3 hours cutscenes confirmed for MGS V

Calling the last half of Deathnote a "piece of shit" is an insult to shit worldwide. Apologize.



osed125 on 05 March 2014
Xen said:
osed125 said:

The last half of Death Note is a piece of sh*t. 

OT: 3 hours cutscenes confirmed for MGS V

Calling the last half of Deathnote a "piece of shit" is an insult to shit worldwide. Apologize.

I won't apologize. After the death of L the series went completely downhill. Maybe calling it a "piece of sh*t" is a bit extreme, but it is very very bad, I could barely finish it.



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AnthonyW86 on 05 March 2014
Lawlight said:
I have. Feeling that this game will be underwhelming.

Why was it Peter Molyneux that is hyping the game?



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Xen on 05 March 2014
osed125 said:
Xen said:
osed125 said:

The last half of Death Note is a piece of sh*t. 

OT: 3 hours cutscenes confirmed for MGS V

Calling the last half of Deathnote a "piece of shit" is an insult to shit worldwide. Apologize.

I won't apologize. After the death of L the series went completely downhill. Maybe calling it a "piece of sh*t" is a bit extreme, but it is very very bad, I could barely finish it.

You missed what I meant I meant that it's so bad that it's calling it shit an insult - to shit. I had to force myself to finish it also, what a disappointment.

Rated it 6/10 overall... as an average between the two halves. I think it's quite obvious what I think of the second one



method114 on 05 March 2014
kowenicki said:
Games are already considered culture. They are a rather obvious part of pop culture.


Agreed. On top of that I don't really care if games are considered culture or not just if I enjoy them or not.



brendude13 on 05 March 2014
morenoingrato said:

According to IGN, the ending is very disturbing (No spoilers in this link):
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/03/05/metal-gear-solid-5s-disturbing-scenes-must-go-to-the-limit

That sounds interesting. I wonder what it is.

I think it has already been shown in the trailers.

Removing the bomb planted inside Paz.



Somini on 05 March 2014
method114 said:
kowenicki said:
Games are already considered culture. They are a rather obvious part of pop culture.


Agreed. On top of that I don't really care if games are considered culture or not just if I enjoy them or not.

It's not about what you think alone. We need games to be recognized for what they are and what they CAN be. Right now a lot of people don't think much of video games.



osed125 on 05 March 2014
Xen said:
osed125 said:

I won't apologize. After the death of L the series went completely downhill. Maybe calling it a "piece of sh*t" is a bit extreme, but it is very very bad, I could barely finish it.

You missed what I meant I meant that it's so bad that it's calling it shit an insult - to shit. I had to force myself to finish it also, what a disappointment.

Rated it 6/10 overall... as an average between the two halves. I think it's quite obvious what I think of the second one





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