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Kojima is a really interesting game maker. He's so invested in pushing video games in bold, new directions yet he hesitates to call games art, or at least traditional art. As a former artist and moviemaker, he must have a unique understanding of how video games fit into the cultural landscape, alongside books, movies, records, etc. It's easy to dismiss Kojima as a frustrated filmmaker but I think he's more complicated than that.

Anyway, I agree with him wholeheartedly about video games' failing to compete with other forms of popular culture. There is clearly a huge subculture of video game enthusiasts, but, after 40 years, the medium is still considered, let's face it, a culturally illegitmate pastime. I'm glad Kojima is committed to carving out a legitimate space for games in this bloated entertainment industry, even if one game, unfortunately, won't make much of a difference. 



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padib said:
method114 said:
kowenicki said:
Games are already considered culture. They are a rather obvious part of pop culture.


Agreed. On top of that I don't really care if games are considered culture or not just if I enjoy them or not.

That's kind of like saying you like McDonald's and don't care if people in general prefer a steakhouse.

The problems are:

  • Are games missing out? Could they be better? Could they also enjoy some of the highest qualities some books and movies seem to enjoy?
  • Does realizing the reason for the difference help me understand the market better?
Those types of things.


No the problem is you care about those things and I don't. None of that stuff matters to me I just want to play games and enjoy them. I don't get into some deep thought about them and all that other stuff. I have other hobbies that I dedicate that sort of time to weight lifting and general IT knowledge. Those are the hobbies I would be more involved in. Gaming is just a way to blow off steam (for me) it's clearly something much more to you. Not judging one way or the other we all have to do what we love.



@DonFerrari and padib: Just drop the whole argument between the two of you. You're obviously not going to agree and most of it is off-topic.



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he certainly pushes limits. 45 minutes of a single cutscene, selling the game in chapters...

on topic, I don't see the relation between culture and pushing limits.