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TheJimbo1234 said:
That is a lot of incorrect wild assumptions you have made.
For the last 5 years devs have not been able to improve graphics, so why are you claiming that they have? They capped everything at 360/ps3 level and the PC got shafted for that.
They do want better graphics now as it is a selling point. Sure, they will add more things, but like every product, it has to look different to sell - graphics are key to that change.

No "tech" demo has come out for years, so god knows what you are on about there. Also Crysis was a great game, with fantastic AI. It just did what all PC games use to do - push the computer so you would want to upgrade.


PC Got shafted? , graphics didn't improve since last 5 years? all PC games are like Crysis? 

I cannot disagree more...



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PullusPardus said:
TheJimbo1234 said:
That is a lot of incorrect wild assumptions you have made.
For the last 5 years devs have not been able to improve graphics, so why are you claiming that they have? They capped everything at 360/ps3 level and the PC got shafted for that.
They do want better graphics now as it is a selling point. Sure, they will add more things, but like every product, it has to look different to sell - graphics are key to that change.

No "tech" demo has come out for years, so god knows what you are on about there. Also Crysis was a great game, with fantastic AI. It just did what all PC games use to do - push the computer so you would want to upgrade.


PC Got shafted? , graphics didn't improve since last 5 years? all PC games are like Crysis? 

I cannot disagree more...

Ha - how did the PC not get shafted then? Go on, point out 5 AAA games from the last 5 years that maxed out the PC for more than 18 months. Also throw in game size as well and crappy ports to boot.



TheJimbo1234 said:
PullusPardus said:
TheJimbo1234 said:
That is a lot of incorrect wild assumptions you have made.
For the last 5 years devs have not been able to improve graphics, so why are you claiming that they have? They capped everything at 360/ps3 level and the PC got shafted for that.
They do want better graphics now as it is a selling point. Sure, they will add more things, but like every product, it has to look different to sell - graphics are key to that change.

No "tech" demo has come out for years, so god knows what you are on about there. Also Crysis was a great game, with fantastic AI. It just did what all PC games use to do - push the computer so you would want to upgrade.


PC Got shafted? , graphics didn't improve since last 5 years? all PC games are like Crysis? 

I cannot disagree more...

Ha - how did the PC not get shafted then? Go on, point out 5 AAA games from the last 5 years that maxed out the PC for more than 18 months. Also throw in game size as well and crappy ports to boot.

Max out PC ? Game Size?... er not sure if you're serious here.



PullusPardus said:
TheJimbo1234 said:
PullusPardus said:
TheJimbo1234 said:
That is a lot of incorrect wild assumptions you have made.
For the last 5 years devs have not been able to improve graphics, so why are you claiming that they have? They capped everything at 360/ps3 level and the PC got shafted for that.
They do want better graphics now as it is a selling point. Sure, they will add more things, but like every product, it has to look different to sell - graphics are key to that change.

No "tech" demo has come out for years, so god knows what you are on about there. Also Crysis was a great game, with fantastic AI. It just did what all PC games use to do - push the computer so you would want to upgrade.


PC Got shafted? , graphics didn't improve since last 5 years? all PC games are like Crysis? 

I cannot disagree more...

Ha - how did the PC not get shafted then? Go on, point out 5 AAA games from the last 5 years that maxed out the PC for more than 18 months. Also throw in game size as well and crappy ports to boot.

Max out PC ? Game Size?... er not sure if you're serious here.

You being obtuse on purpose or just avoiding a direct answer as I've clearly shown what you said to be silly at best.



TheJimbo1234 said:

You being obtuse on purpose or just avoiding a direct answer as I've clearly shown what you said to be silly at best.


but it is so stupid, no offense.

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-Smeags



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PullusPardus said:


but it is so stupid, no offense.

Still no direct answer. Troll harder.

~Mod Edit~

This post has been moderated.

-Smeags



TheJimbo1234 said:

Still no direct answer. Troll harder.


"Troll" ? why would I troll my own thread?



Hmmm... I'm not sure I agree that devs aren't trying to push the graphics envelope with this gen of consoles. It's the easiest way to sell a game in a trailer; make everything look fantastic. Other gameplay aspects, AI and level design are harder for marketing departments to push so they will always push for the best graphics.



PullusPardus said:
TheJimbo1234 said:

Still no direct answer. Troll harder.


"Troll" ? why would I troll my own thread?


Still no direct answer. Afraid to actually answer my orignal question or going to continue to skirt around it hm?



TheJimbo1234 said:
PullusPardus said:
TheJimbo1234 said:

Still no direct answer. Troll harder.


"Troll" ? why would I troll my own thread?


Still no direct answer. Afraid to actually answer my orignal question or going to continue to skirt around it hm?

okay then, for Smeags sake i'll answer. 

"PC got shafted" ,  PC never got shafted in fact its doing much much better now than it ever did in the past, you can thank Steam for that, its probably going to be overtaking consoles sales in a couple of years.

"Graphics haven't improved in the last 5 years" Have you seen the difference in graphics between launch titles and titles released this year? or are you talking about PC? even on PC they improved A LOT, hence why they release GPUs of course.

"show me games that max out PC"  PCs cant be maxed out because every PC is different, its impossible its not a unified platform, its not a console.

"Tell me the size of the games" a size of the game has nothing to do with graphics or quality or anything for that matter, its just a bigger file, a bigger game file only means that the developer doesn't know how to code right and left unused and unfinished textures all over the place.