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can somebody explain to me how nintendo could lose money with the wii u?

im looking for informations everywhere, but i couldnt find any usefull.

they must have problems with the production or must have ordered to much chips. they just cant make so much lose on the product, the tech inside is cheap it cant cost 300$ or more. they didnt  spend much on PR last year(they didnt had so many TV ads).

so its mb the game developing. but nintendo is known for makeing relativly cheap games. an the games we saw cant made a lose.

all of the first party games are selling relativly good and dont look to expensive.

pikmin sold 700k. it dont look like a 10m$+ game.

same goes for the other firstparty games.

and the R&D cant be the problem too. its a cheap road nintendo took, its basicly the same system since the GC.

 

so how could nintendo lose so much money?

 

 



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It's sold at a loss.



Nintentacle said:
It's sold at a loss.


they sold 10m not bundled firstparty games minimum. so they must sell at a HUGE loss per console. that just cant be.

u have a source that estimates the manufacturing costs above 250$?

i cant find one. 228 or 180 are the estimates i can find, and both are from launch.

 



They shown some incompetence when comes to making Hd games, game development coast shot up and take longer now. they make less of their games now and have no 3rd party sales to fall back on.

Made a awful decision including the currently useless pad, it added unnecessary costs to the console. Id guess the low sales only made the cost per unit go up, low wiiu sale mean lower then expected software sales.

Its one problem adding onto another and another, a wound that will not stop bleeding.



All I know is that at launch, Reggie was saying the Wii U Pro at $350 was sold at a loss, but if the user purchased even one game (besides Nintendo Land that came bundled), then they make a profit. Now, the Pro bundle is at $300, so it probably takes 2 or 3 games to reach a profit. Maybe people just weren't buying enough games, which could have happened what with the sparse amount of good Wii U games that came out last year.



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I don't know. I'll pull something out of my ass.

--Let's say you make a pie and you want to sell it. You make 100 pies and it costs you one dollar to make each pie. You want to sell them for $2 each. If you sell them all, you'll make $200. Unfortunately, nobody wants your pies because they want cake. You only sell 10 pies. Now, instead of making the $200 you thought you'd make, you only made $20. Meanwhile 90 pies are still on the shelf just wasting away and you'll be lucky if you can even make your money back when you sell them for a discounted price.

TLDR: Nintendo fucked up. Sony and Microsoft are selling cake and that's what the public wants.



spurgeonryan said:
I dont know how. I spent 1,000 dollars in two months on wii u. Do they need more? one second...let me go sell my plasma, sperm ( short balding whte guy sperm...big money!, and blood....then ill see what i can do.


.... is there even enough addons and games to blow that much on the U.

wtf did you buy?



generic-user-1 said:
Nintentacle said:
It's sold at a loss.


they sold 10m not bundled firstparty games minimum. so they must sell at a HUGE loss per console. that just cant be.

u have a source that estimates the manufacturing costs above 250$?

i cant find one. 228 or 180 are the estimates i can find, and both are from launch.

 

1. They have to sell 2 games per system to make a profit. They install base is 5.7 million, so they need to have sold at least 
at least 11.4 million first party software to make a profit.

2. Nintendo said themselves it was sold at a loss. My guess would be because of the GamePad.



You can't make money if nobody is buying the Wii U. Everywhere I go, the Wii U is just sitting in abundant numbers on store shelves. Maybe people are waiting for Mario Kart or Smash Brothers but I don't see people buying the Xbox One because of Titanfall. People will be content to play it on the 360 or PC.



d21lewis said:
I don't know. I'll pull something out of my ass.

--Let's say you make a pie and you want to sell it. You make 100 pies and it costs you one dollar to make each pie. You want to sell them for $2 each. If you sell them all, you'll make $200. Unfortunately, nobody wants your pies because they want cake. You only sell 10 pies. Now, instead of making the $200 you thought you'd make, you only made $20. Meanwhile 90 pies are still on the shelf just wasting away and you'll be lucky if you can even make your money back when you sell them for a discounted price.

TLDR: Nintendo fucked up. Sony and Microsoft are selling cake and that's what the public wants.

Yeah, Nintendo probably over produced Wii U in case it will sell like the Wii did... Ironically, it turns out the competition is selling more than the Wii did without entering all the major regions (Japan) in the world and even has some stock issues in smaller cities and towns.