Anyone else kind of feel like the PS4's power gap isn't that big anymore?  I mean, sure it's more powerful, but after seeing these two, I don't find myself thinking "Oh, how much better this would have looked on PS4"... Am I the only one that thinks that people will stop thinking the Wii U is underpowered after these two games see daylight?

If Mario Kart 8 ends up looking as good (or better) as/than it does in the most recent trailer, then I think that would be a better showcase for the Wii U's graphical capabilities. Bayonetta 2 and X look good but not to the point where it makes you say "this absolutely couldn't be done on the last generation of hardware". I know that Mario Kart 8 doesn't have that much to render but if you look at similar games on older systems there's a pretty noticeable difference. 

Wii U has been out longer and we are still waiting. Its that simple. PS4/One just came out. All we have are 3rd party games to go on, every time somebody brings up Ninty 1st party its always the excuse "well Ninty doesnt really push graphics like that" So we dont even have that much to go on except B2 and X which i have said still doesnt look as good as whats been shown on PS4 or One

So you have to be a fanboy? guess im a fanboy, because I still say Infamous ss and FF15 still blows those two games out of the water. Now its not the distance that Wii had with PS360, but its still a distance

Wii U has been out longer and we are still waiting. Its that simple. PS4/One just came out. All we have are 3rd party games to go on, every time somebody brings up Ninty 1st party its always the excuse "well Ninty doesnt really push graphics like that" So we dont even have that much to go on except B2 and X which i have said still doesnt look as good as whats been shown on PS4 or One

I'm not saying Wii U can match PS4 and Xbone graphically, but Wii U being out longer doesn't mean its been more tapped out than PS4/Xbone; the hasn't been a single Wii U game made from the ground up to be graphically intensive, whereas PS4/Xbone have Killzone and Ryse.

I believe we have seen more of PS4/Xbone's potential than we have of Wii Us.

I said this in a different forum, mostly related to PC graphics (since I'm a PC gamer), but the PS4 is closer to its full capacity than people think.  What we'll see are optimizations and clever ways to pull off graphical tricks over the years, but if you're expecting a PS3/XBox360 level of growth in graphics, that's not going to happen this generation.  If anything, the Wii U is the one that has yet to even reach its full potential, because 3rd parties don't waste their money/time making sure its optimized (ACIV anyone?), and Nintendo even has yet to reach their own full HD stride.

Pikmin 3 was their FIRST AAA HD game, and it came out quite well.  SM3DW took it up a notch, and delivered a solid experience with very neat graphics tech flying completely under the radar (textures, shaders, not a single polygon edge in sight).  DKC:TF brings in fur tech and major on-screen physics, and Mario Kart 8, well, there's no denying that game looks amazing.  See Nintendo's fast growth there?

While I recognize the old-fashioned ways of Nintendo, I also have to agree with a lot of it.  Now I think I said this before, but I'll say it again...

Nintendo is probably the only remaining bastion of what was once right in the gaming industry: creativity, fun, local multiplayer, complete games, and a pure and wholesame gaming experience.  They have not left these standards, and these standards do not work in today's generation of ADD gamers with Facebook, Twitter, online gaming with strangers, and yelling/cussing about headshots and hacks (which obviously never occurs when you're in the same room as the people you're playing with on the same TV, lol).  The old-school Nintendo cannot survive in the modern era of self-entitled gamers, but unfortunately, I find their old-school values to be the right ones.  Nintendo does not want to play the "sales" game, they want to create great games, and let people enjoy them on their own.  They don't want to market, they want to generate content for people.  This is both their greatest weakness and their greatest strength.

I am more than sure they are trying to strike a balance, a balance between being old and new.  SM3DW actually managed to pull this off in many ways.  I think if it DID have online play, there would have been NO way to get a word in edgewise about Nintendo.  The reality is that they ARE stuck in their old ways, but their old ways were once the RIGHT ways, and in many ways, still are.  Unfortunately, morals don't sell consoles.

That couldn't get anymore obvious ...

It is QUALITY games that make the console sell while also defining what a QUALITY console is.

It is SALES that define CUSTOMERS and it is they who defines the QUALITY of a specific product. 

GOOD WILL MEANS NOTHING IF CUSTOMERS ARE DISSASTISFIED ABOUT A PRODUCT. 

Despite the fact that microsoft was about to pull DRM an all the CUSTOMERS would have still defined it as the better product compared to the WII U according to sales.