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tuscaniman99 said:
freedquaker said:
I'm glad to see that predictions start to hold even before Japan. I had said XB1 will be very lucky if it could get away with 2:1, because that is very optimistic for XB1. Its share will be between 3:1 & 2:1 and I am leaning more towards 3:1.... What's funny is that even a few weeks ago, there were still people who claimed Xbox was too strong of a brand, and there was no way for Sony to beat it in US! I have given many technical & scientific estimates precisely predicting what's going to happen, to only land on deaf ears.

See my original estimates attached on my signature. They will hold! They always do :)


Xbox One will win US if they drop the price soon. If MS decides to keep it $100 more than PS4 then yes Sony will win US. Sony has nothing to compete with Titanfall, Halo & Price drop this year. My prediction is based on a price drop. A Xbox One at equal price will beat the PS4 in the US.

Titanfall is not going to make much difference, small bump then back to normal. Halo 5 is next year. Remember a big reason 360 won US soundly was launching a year earlier and having huge advantages first 2-3 years, including many third party exclusives.



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tuscaniman99 said:
JoeTheBro said:
tuscaniman99 said:
freedquaker said:
I'm glad to see that predictions start to hold even before Japan. I had said XB1 will be very lucky if it could get away with 2:1, because that is very optimistic for XB1. Its share will be between 3:1 & 2:1 and I am leaning more towards 3:1.... What's funny is that even a few weeks ago, there were still people who claimed Xbox was too strong of a brand, and there was no way for Sony to beat it in US! I have given many technical & scientific estimates precisely predicting what's going to happen, to only land on deaf ears.

See my original estimates attached on my signature. They will hold! They always do :)


Xbox One will win US if they drop the price soon. If MS decides to keep it $100 more than PS4 then yes Sony will win US. Sony has nothing to compete with Titanfall, Halo & Price drop this year. My prediction is based on a price drop. A Xbox One at equal price will beat the PS4 in the US.

Well the halo game this year is leaked to be halo 2. Sony doesn't need to compete with that.

Sony has 0 multiplayer exclusive games announced vs arguably the most beloved console multiplayer game of all time (Halo 2.) Yeah Sony needs something to compete in the multiplayer bracket. Destiny will sell very well on PS4 because there is literally nothing else to play multiplayer wise unless people want to keep playing COD. Multiplayer experiences sell consoles in the US.

Hogwash, Destiny, COD. MP games dont have to be exclusives, there are already too many MP shooters. Uncharted will have MP and good MP at that, then there is planet side 2... There will be plenty of MP games when it is all said and done.



Skeeuk said:
the fact that ps3 and 360 are out doing the Wii in console sales aswell as major game releases is solid proof the Wii was a looser last gen


But the biggest winner financially. Its no looser.



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GribbleGrunger said:


At the end of the day, what difference does it make WHY more people are subscribing to PS+?

I was clarifying to someone that believes free games were bringing in subscribers.

Surely it brings some, but a majority just wanna play games online.



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Microsoft really making some dumb moves with xbone, they sacrificed the power and price on the X1. if was designed like the ps4 at 349-399$, it wouldn't be getting its ass kicked like that.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Skeeuk said:
the fact that ps3 and 360 are out doing the Wii in console sales aswell as major game releases is solid proof the Wii was a looser last gen


But the biggest winner financially. Its no looser.

And why should we give a shit ? honestly why.  Why should i care if some corp loses or makes $, as long as i get the best product at the lowest price.

Sony sold me a $800 product for 5 bills, to me that that is a winner right there.  I WON thats what i care about, MS Sony Ninty can all go to hell for all i really care, if one dies some one will take its palce.  Last thing i want to do is way over pay for mediocre products where some corps makes massive profits of my ass.  Damn how many of you got shares in these companys ?



Skeeuk said:
the fact that ps3 and 360 are out doing the Wii in console sales aswell as major game releases is solid proof the Wii was a looser last gen


So if PS4 outsells One from 2013-2019 but One outsells PS4 in 2020 that makes PS4 a loser this gen?



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zorg1000 said:
Skeeuk said:
the fact that ps3 and 360 are out doing the Wii in console sales aswell as major game releases is solid proof the Wii was a looser last gen


So if PS4 outsells One from 2013-2019 but One outsells PS4 in 2020 that makes PS4 a loser this gen?


Yeah, I didn't quite get that one either. Not to mention the fact that the 360 and PS3 made their respective manufacturers bleed cash out their proverbial behinds.

I think it's quite a stretch to call the Wii anything but the winner of the 7th gen. It was never going to live as long as the others though, that doesn't change all that much. Besides; by this same logic; doesn't the PS2 make the PS3 and 360 losers? It outsold them rather handily for quite some time.



ryuzaki57 said:
Does Xbone still have supply issues in America?


I went into a best buy and they had about 6, and I bought one. When i did a search for availablity about every store had them. Which was nice when I was ready to get one.



 

BeElite said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Skeeuk said:
the fact that ps3 and 360 are out doing the Wii in console sales aswell as major game releases is solid proof the Wii was a looser last gen


But the biggest winner financially. Its no looser.

And why should we give a shit ? honestly why.  Why should i care if some corp loses or makes $, as long as i get the best product at the lowest price.

Sony sold me a $800 product for 5 bills, to me that that is a winner right there.  I WON thats what i care about, MS Sony Ninty can all go to hell for all i really care, if one dies some one will take its palce.  Last thing i want to do is way over pay for mediocre products where some corps makes massive profits of my ass.  Damn how many of you got shares in these companys ?


I'm saying its silly to call a company that made massive profits and sold the most hardware a looser.

You enjoyed the PS3 and I'm sure many enjoyed the Wii. Everybody wins!



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