you didnt debunk anything, most of what was said was simply opinions. YOu cant debunk his opinion, if the doesnt like it its perfectly fine and gave reasons to not like it. You just countered with either "I dont mind" or "works for me" hardly an argument. You cant call someone's opinions BS. THats IGN nonsense.

IMHO that just hurts your case. The wrong games? if it so awesome then it should be good for ALL if not MOST of the games. You kind of admitted it isnt, so it cant be that awesome?

Fair enough.  My opinion vs his....but I'm willing to bet he hasn't used one.  Personally, I don't care if people like it or not.  If he said the rumble was weaker than a baby kitten or the triggers were digital instead of analog, I would agree.  As it stands, I think he is just posting stuff he saw on the internet or totally making stuff up.  The Wii U's analog sticks aren't 3DS analog nubs, for example. In your opinion, is an iPod heavy?  That's how much a Wii U controller weighs.  Either way, I'll drop it.   You guys pwned me.

It wasnt may intention to own perse just pointing out the descrepancy . He could have went online but couldnt ANYONE do that? for a good or bad? I didnt find the thing heavy myself, but I lift so yeah.

I think the Gamepad is lame. I think it is an albatross around the U's neck. I think it was a mistake for Nintendo to center an entire console over this feature, which not everyone sees value in. It is a hodgepodge of ideas and is exclusive, as opposed to the Wii's inclusive nature. I think its high time Nintendo start making Gamepad less SKU's.

I have potatoes in my pantry that are heavier than the Wii U Pad, if you can't or are not sure how to lift it, you may have issues.

i like it, and off tv play is a big deal for my house

I think the gamepad is a great idea, but poorly executed. If it was a little smaller (but with the same size screen), sleeker, lighter and with better battery life more people would like it. Oh and better range for off-TV play would be great too. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Nintendo released a revision of the gamepad soon with these issues addressed. I'd trade mine in on the new model in a heartbeat.

I don´t like it...off tv play is useless to me, the battery life is pretty bad and I think it´s annoying to keep looking up and down between the TV screen and the Gamepad in, for example, those situations in TW101 that demand it.

I prefer the Pro controller far more.Great design and excellent battery life, now that´s an awesome controller.

The mandatory use of the Gamepad in Mario 3D World diminishes my enjoyment with the game.I´m perfectly fine playing with the Pro controller, and all of a sudden the game demands that I use the thing, and for what?..just to touch some frickin platforms and blow into the mic...get outta here.And those Toad levels, why oh why do I have to use it?...just to tilt the controller in order to move the camera....oh wait, but you can also just use the right analog stick, which is actually the preferred method.

I´m so glad DKC has no mandatory use of the pad.

The gamepad is nothing but a gimmick, and a poor one at that. Nintendo could have added some more juice to their hardware, added a "traditional" control pad that doesn't suck, and still launched the system at $299, and it would be competitive with PS4/X1 at this point instead of being pretty much DOA and devoid of any real 3rd party support.