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selnor1983 on 04 February 2014
NiKKoM said:
ow wow.. its like worth nothing... ~400 million dollar?I thought Viao was worth more than that.. for example with the MS stuff going on Bloomberg estimates that the Xbox division is worth 23 billion dollar.. surely Viao should be worth more then ~400 million


The entirity of Sony is worth 19 billion. Xbox is worth more than All of Sony.  Not just more than Playstation. Just shows the business side of things MS does well.



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dandd on 04 February 2014

I can see why they want to sell off their PC business, but I wouldn't call this a good sign for Sony. No business really wants to shrink. The best course would be to make the divisionn profitable again, but the PC market is declining and I'm sure Sony just wants out.

Quite sad really, Sony used to be a "go to" brand, now its just the PS4 company.



justinian on 04 February 2014

Sony sold the PC side of things and bought the company that makes parts for the wii u. I really cant consider that good business. I understand seling the laptop business however.





Dgc1808 on 04 February 2014
sales2099 said:
Fusioncode said:
sales2099 said:
Soooo they are now selling actual divisions of their company to stay profitable?

They're selling off unprofitable divisions. Kind of smart actually. Now they just need to get rid of their TV line. 

As an electronics company, it is a sign of weakness instead of trying to rejuvinate it. The TV line too. Selling off buildings is one thing, but cutting off your own limbs is a slippery slope.

The situation is much closer to removing a tumor filled/zombie bitten limb, as opposed to just a wounded one. The articles states this sale would be shifting them to a loss this year due to costs attatched. If rejuvination/healing was a cheaper option, I'm sure they would continued to try to do so. 



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Zappykins on 04 February 2014
Fusioncode said:
sales2099 said:
Soooo they are now selling actual divisions of their company to stay profitable?

They're selling off unprofitable divisions. Kind of smart actually. Now they just need to get rid of their TV line. 

For many of us that's always been the big 'Sony' thing and what they were most known for - quality TV's.  It was shocking when I realized a few years ago that Samsung was better.  It was a total shock.  Like how it was when Kmart bought out the giant rock of a company Sears. Or like when a vegetable you hated as a kid now taste good.

 So Sony TV’s might be going the way of the BetaMax. 

I find it a little bit sad.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

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Zappykins on 04 February 2014
Xen said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

They should... Their PC and laptops are terrible for the price you pay.. And so should HP... Asus should be the company that people buy PCs/Laptops from, not Sony and HP

Not HP?

Not the case here, I'm afraid. HP is quite common around here. Majority share, I'd say.

Vaio's too expensive, though.

HP machines are notorious for being stuffed with bloat ware, having silly non fixable parts and unhelpful priority hardware.  The only reason they succeded (IMO) was because they used to sell so many to business.

I fixed a couple of HP computers and laptops for friend’s last year.  I couldn’t recommend  anyone ever get a HP, even before all the troubles they are in now and the nutter, Whitman* that is running it into the ground.

*Whitman cost Ebay 2 Billion dollars on Skype alone and was fired form Ebay with a bunch of lawsuits.





 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

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Mystro-Sama on 04 February 2014
selnor1983 said:
I don't want PS to go. The competition is great for the gaming industry. But this Sony losses keep worrying me. I hope these sales help them in the future.

 

They're not going to sell one of their most profitable sector. That would make no sense business wise.



MoHasanie on 04 February 2014
selnor1983 said:
NiKKoM said:
ow wow.. its like worth nothing... ~400 million dollar?I thought Viao was worth more than that.. for example with the MS stuff going on Bloomberg estimates that the Xbox division is worth 23 billion dollar.. surely Viao should be worth more then ~400 million


The entirity of Sony is worth 19 billion. Xbox is worth more than All of Sony.  Not just more than Playstation. Just shows the business side of things MS does well.

I doubt the Xbox division is worth $23bn! Seems too high. Maybe the whole devices division is worth that much? 



    

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MoHasanie on 04 February 2014
michael_stutzer said:

The PC market is an unprofitable, shrinking mess right now. Eventually most companies will retreat from the PC market, only the ones with the best supply chain will survive.

They still make TVs even though they lose billions, their losses on the PCs must be huge though.


Both make loses, but somebody is actually interested in buying the Vaio business. Nobody wants Sony's Bravia TV division since it loses so much money. 



    

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Pemalite on 04 February 2014
dandd said:
I can see why they want to sell off their PC business, but I wouldn't call this a good sign for Sony. No business really wants to shrink. The best course would be to make the divisionn profitable again, but the PC market is declining and I'm sure Sony just wants out.

Quite sad really, Sony used to be a "go to" brand, now its just the PS4 company.


Indeed.
The PC market is in decline across the board, with one sole exception. - The PC gaming market and other facets that rely on that market, which is still seeing large growth.

However with that in mind, even though the PC market is in decline it is still shifting 300 million or more units per year, if Sony cannot or is not willing to compete for some of that pie, well. That's their own failure, lenovo for instance has been capturing marketshare and posting continued growth at the expensive of it's competitors who failed to innovate and be competitive on multiple fronts.

Sony *could* have been in a similar position, it's really their own fault.




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