I should of added i believe it peaked too but at the same time its not set in stone. all 3 years had been very close in sales being 13.4mil-14.6mil each year (forgot exact numbers) and the best year (2013) barely beat the year before (2012). The difference between the two are huge though on the SW side. If nintendo does another DS lite type of thing anything goes! That said i still dont think 3DS will do another 12mil+ year (im guessing about 11mil this year)

Thats shipped not sold. Thats a Difference. Nintendo sold alot of their 3ds that they overshipped last holiday, but i guess your going to ignore that. How about pokemon? Sold 11.61mil by dec 31st. Will you go with that number in your bet?

Just wait until they release the beast in Japan. >:D

3ds down year on year? I thought it was up slightly for 2013 over 2012... Maybe I'm mistaken. Plus, one thing people aren't taking into consideration, is, people tend to buy systems in their prime, when they have an established library of amazing titles, like 3ds has.
And also price, yeah yeah, the 2ds.... That's why no one is buying the 2ds..... When the actual 3ds gets a price cut to $99-$119, I bet it will sell tons, if not better than ever.
Remember people, the base 3ds model is still $170! And the xl is $200! That's more than the ds ever was! I
I think mostly the haters say the 3d is a gimmick, but for me, and I think judging by the 2ds sales, that 3d is not really a gimmick. It's a problem on tv's, where you need glasses, but you only need you eyes for perfect 3d on the 3ds. I think the 2ds was Nintendo listening to the people who say they don't want 3d, and those people won't buy one anyway! Who wants a stripped 3ds? No one, that's who. So please, just stop with the nonsense "peaked" bs, especially when the most popular model (the xl) costs as much as a vita.... I really laugh when I read analysts here saying it's peaked. I can't see it selling less than 13 million without a price cut, if they drop the small 3ds to 119, and the xl to 149, I see the 3ds selling 15+ million.

Why can't you keep the conversation on topic for once? He had 1 bet he MAY lose, but that doesn't mean you have to remind him of that in every argument you get into with him. I don't see you doing the same with Zero for example, who has failed much more bets and predictions than anyone on the site combined.

About the bolded, stop making things up. We can only compare VGC numbers or Nintendo's shipped numbers when looking at YOY sales and both show a clear picture the 3DS sales that are declining. Even with Pokemon, Monster Hunter and a new model which was supposed to put the market on fire, the 3DS is STILL selling less.

Ok Zero has the craziest predictions, you got hundreds of people getting on him for that. As for Lawlight why do you feel the need to come to his rescue whenever its Tbone vs Lawlight post? I was trying to prove a point to him. If you have to know i said pokemon XY sold (shipped) 11.61mil by years end. (his bet is 12mil which he claimed impossible to do) He said he wont use those numbers cuz its shipped, but then this thread he doesn't apply the same arguement he had before? Why? Cuz it benefits him.

Im just asking you is it that bad that you feel the need to come to his aid? cant me and him over it? Its almost every time me and him start posting i hear something from you (that i did something)

That said yes i kno about 3DS situation. Pokemon+MH didn't make all the difference yet Paper Mario and AC did from the year before. Cuz the SW (2014) is not as strong as 2013 it must be declining which makes sense but at the same time before 2013 ended people were expecting more sales so wat do you have to say about that? (people predictions were 15mil-18mil, this includes huge Sony/M$ only fans)

Still lacks perspective.

2007 was before smartphones took a gigantic bite out of the handheld market, which explains the lower handheld sales.

2007 also included Japan sales for MS and Sony while these 2014 do not.

So, you're happy to count shipped numbers for Pokemon but can't do the same for the 3DS? I guess you cherry pick the numbers that favour your argument.

next week should be interesting. PS4 on top again

Outside factors dont change the fact that sales have drastically declined

As for Sony, PS3 wasnt available in Europe yet which is much bigger than Japan.