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MarcellusMighty said:
By this point, I don't care about third parties anymore. There have been three solid efforts by my count: NFS: Most Wanted U, Rayman Legends, and Deus Ex: HR Director's Cut. None of those games were exclusive, and THAT IS THE PROBLEM. Timing was so late with NFS, and Deus Ex and Rayman, by shifting over to everything else on the planet, made a very weak case for a Wii U purchase.

Nobody has bothered to make a true, solid effort for Nintendo's console. Not one, and I'm supremely pissed off about it. I am angry, especially at EA for lying to everyone about working with Nintendo, then backstabbing them with piss-poor ports that nobody wanted, and using their failures to 'justify' the withholding of FIFA, Madden, Battlefield, and anything else that would at least enhance the value of having a Wii U. But, no. Nobody cares. Nobody actually tried. That's what angers me the most, really. Not ONE third party put 100% into the Wii U.

So, screw Watch Dogs and Ubisoft. I'm glad they didn't act like jerks, but even they were foolish about putting Rayman on consoles where no one buys Rayman when they would have shot up Wii U sales and their own game sales by being exclusive. I'm tired of this, guys. I'm just tired of it. There's no reason for it, than pure greed and bias. Whatever happens to Watch Dogs, happens. Whatever. I don't care anymore.

Well we'll never know what could have been, but pusblishers evaluate how much potential there is on the console and if it doesn't look promising then it doesn't make business sense to invest strongly in it, especially exclusively unless there are Nintendobux paying for that exclusivity.

Your point that you don't care about 3rd parties anymore just proves 3rd parties were right to not invest in your system.

IMO it was Nintendo's job to get their games out sooner, market more, and court 3rd parties in order to build momentum.



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Mr Khan said:
oniyide said:
Mr Khan said:
 

Which is probably what's going on here. Either Sony is paying Ubisoft to put focus on the PS4 version, or Ubisoft themselves are trying to play up those versions because this is their big bet going into the 8th generation and they want to focus on the versions with the most bells and whistles.

LMAO, you just want to believe that so bad, but im going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you dont really believe that, but you want to so bad. If you think SOny or MS would pay to downplay the Wii u version. a version that is going to sell the worst of the platforms ANYWAY then you have really fallen out the tree. Both those guys are getting the game on two of their platforms.

NOw what probably happned, and more likely is that SOny probably gave Ubi some incentives to really showcase the game on PS4 and had stuff like exclusive content on their, but they've both done crap like that for years. Ninty is a non factor in this area.

That is not what I said at all. I said that Ubisoft themselves (of their own volition) are downplaying the Wii U version because they want to shine a spotlight on the others. I was not suggesting that Sony was bribing them to downplay the Wii U version (Sony's money would go towards playing up the PS4 version, which is happening.)

i read that wrong, fair enough.



JoeTheBro said:
I wouldn't be shocked, but I still think it's coming.


Of course it's coming. Ubisoft have invested way too much time and money into the Wii U SKU. They're better off releasing it to mitigate their losses at this stage of development.

If this were an EA game it would be different, they swallowed the losses of Crysis 3 just because they were still having their hissy fit but this is Ubisoft we're talking about.

They should have made a profit on most of their high profile Wii U titles by now - ZombiU, Assassin's Creed III, Just Dance and Rayman Legends will all be money in the bank by now, and releasing another high profile title after hardware sales have increased thanks to Donkey Kong and Mario Kart 8 is a smart idea, particularly if there isn't too much competition from new 1st and 3rd party titles when it launches.



snowdog said:
JoeTheBro said:
I wouldn't be shocked, but I still think it's coming.


Of course it's coming. Ubisoft have invested way too much time and money into the Wii U SKU. They're better off releasing it to mitigate their losses at this stage of development.

If this were an EA game it would be different, they swallowed the losses of Crysis 3 just because they were still having their hissy fit but this is Ubisoft we're talking about.

They should have made a profit on most of their high profile Wii U titles by now - ZombiU, Assassin's Creed III, Just Dance and Rayman Legends will all be money in the bank by now, and releasing another high profile title after hardware sales have increased thanks to Donkey Kong and Mario Kart 8 is a smart idea, particularly if there isn't too much competition from new 1st and 3rd party titles when it launches.

lol this whole thread is full of people thinking it's not coming. You can't just say "of course it's coming" even when most evidence and logic point that it is.



Still on the official site, still taking pre-orders and also on the Wii U Uplay app complete with achievements and rewards. Whilst all the aforementioned remain, the game is still scheduled for release.



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Aerys said:
Mr Khan said:
Aerys said:
Or, the game is just too ambitious , last year, we heard they had problem with Wii U version.

I had heard the opposite, that the Wii U version was running on the same engine as the 4-One version (just downscaled).

Anyway, the game is on PS3 and 360, so that is categorically impossible.

Not so impossible, we heard from many develops that developping on Wii U was not an easy task and a loss of time, and developpers are well used to PS3 and 360 now, not the same thing.

Its on record, a Ubisoft dev saying the Wii U version runs and looks better than the PS360 versions.



Fusioncode said:
superchunk said:
This means Nintendo needs to pay for it or its not happening. Forget it. I following Rol and only buying Nintendo published games.

And that's precisely the reason why 3rd parties are avoiding the WiiU like the plague. Why would they waste time and money porting a game over if nobody bothers to buy?


That is a bold face lie by them. You want to know the real reason why the Wii-U is struggling so hard to attract these huge third party publishers? It's because they can't release half games for full price and sell the other half via DLC due to Nintendo only throwing 32GB in the system. It's the same reason EA left. They wanted to screw people over with their microtransaction bullshit and cram Orgin down their throats. Nintendo doesn't allow for that sort of thing by choice, or design.

In a way, this is exposing the truth about modern AAA publishers. It's letting us see who's who. There use to be a time when the line of thinking was "come up with great original idea, make great game with as much content as humanly possible to entertain the gamer, profit". Now it's mostly "create product, market product, make as much profit as possible from product, repeat". The game industry has become the movie industry now.

It's basically Nintendo and indie devs that still do it the old way, the RIGHT way. Unfortunately, greed is taking over.



Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Fuck it, I already lost hope on the wiiU version.. I have a better PC anyway so I will get it for that... Better graphics/fps than all consoles anyway

But if it does come out for the wiiU, I might get it then


my thoughts exactly.

TBH i wonder how many Nintendo gamers think
"Why would I play third party on "shitty" consoles when PC is the better experience? With theoretically better graphics more FPS and MOD support!"
"Why would I play shooters with an alalog stick its like playing SuperMario with a racing wheel. it will work but is stupid"

I mean I dont buy third party games on consoles because they are always cheaper and BETTER on PC. I own consoles for exclusives.
Also third party publishers devalue their games way to fast IMHO because they think "3 months! if it does not sell within 3 months its a failure PRICE DROP!" And then their games end up with a $5 price tag on steam within 12 months.

I would start buying third party games when

  1. they are reasonably priced (not 70 bucks compared to 60 on PS360 when WiiU was new!)
  2. When devs put effort into porting it over and
  3. when the console specific features like the Gamepad are used well. I mean e.g Every car in GTA would have its own dashboard design on the gamepad with car manufacturer specific  RADIO/GPS design etc." 
  4. And when third party games become less MAINSTREAM and more POLISHED.


But as long as console versions have NOTHING to offer compared to PC (WiiU has potential to do it)  i will keep buying my games on PC for 10% of the console versions price.



prayformojo said:
Fusioncode said:
superchunk said:
This means Nintendo needs to pay for it or its not happening. Forget it. I following Rol and only buying Nintendo published games.

And that's precisely the reason why 3rd parties are avoiding the WiiU like the plague. Why would they waste time and money porting a game over if nobody bothers to buy?


That is a bold face lie by them. You want to know the real reason why the Wii-U is struggling so hard to attract these huge third party publishers? It's because they can't release half games for full price and sell the other half via DLC due to Nintendo only throwing 32GB in the system. It's the same reason EA left. They wanted to screw people over with their microtransaction bullshit and cram Orgin down their throats. Nintendo doesn't allow for that sort of thing by choice, or design.

In a way, this is exposing the truth about modern AAA publishers. It's letting us see who's who. There use to be a time when the line of thinking was "come up with great original idea, make great game with as much content as humanly possible to entertain the gamer, profit". Now it's mostly "create product, market product, make as much profit as possible from product, repeat". The game industry has become the movie industry now.

It's basically Nintendo and indie devs that still do it the old way, the RIGHT way. Unfortunately, greed is taking over.

This whole idea of "nowadays retail games are incomplete and you have to buy DLC to have the complete experience" is one of the biggest bullshits the gaming community has thrown around in the last few years. I cannot think of a single game that was ACTUALLY incomplete, that REQUIRED you to buy extra content to get the full game. DLC is an extension of the game, not a part removed from the game and then sold elsewhere. If you don't buy it, you're not missing the core of the game.

In fact, your whole post is a synthesis of the strange notion that most Nintendo's fans have: Nintendo are the good guys, and third-parties are downright evil for not releasing games for the Wii U. Yeah, fuck those evil publishers!

 

And you know of the biggest franchises in gaming? GTA? Yeah, that has a lot of content and barely any DLC. AC also has a lot of content and the games are fun, despite being yearly instalments (which, unlike popular belief, are not synonym with horrible games and the bane of the gaming industry).

I'll give you this though: on-disc DLC is indeed bullshit. The content is already there, but you can't access it? Yeah, no thanks Capcom.



For those of you Nintendo fans claiming you do not care, well, your not real fans. If anything Ubi's games have utilized the gamepad more than what Nintendo has done so far (in respect to Rayman & ZombiU). This game looks to have more potential than both of those games and for gameplay experience, will be the definitive version. We need to go out and preorder this game before they do decide to pull the plug!



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