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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Xbox One: 1080p/60fps Not Happening Anytime Soon, Not Enough Power But Tools Will Improve

FlamingWeazel on 30 January 2014
Dark_Feanor said:
FlamingWeazel said:
Dark_Feanor said:
Are we back at octuber?

Those same old guys are telling the same old shit, as if they knew anything better to say. The same NeoGaf trinity.

the hell the UI had anything to do with native resolution and framerate?

I´m sick and tired of hearing about 1080p, especialy from people who knows nothing about making game and art.

There are so many things that make a game great and we are being condemed to talk about one of the least important points.

Does it bother any one here that 90% of past generation GOTY weren´t even 720p. Were people talking about resolution on the time Halo 3, Mass Effect, GTA 4, Uncharted 1 and 2 were all sub HD and none of those games ever get close to be 60fps?

That is a pathetic discution that makes me feel ashamed of this "jornalism".

Last gen games were 720P because it was LAST GEN LOL. If it;s pathetic why are you commenting on it? Performance, graphics, tech is important in gaming whether you think so or not.


They were not even 720p, and all Wii games where 480p.

Please take a time to read and make some research.


LAST GEN , if you have to resort to comapring x1 games against last then then...lol.  Racing games day/night weatehr is important to sim different driving conditions. Forza had majoe concessions to get 1080p and 60 FPS, DF points out fact. PS4 would not need said concessions. The technology diff is there whether you like it or not.



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Mike_L on 30 January 2014
fallen said:

Dood doesn't know what he's talking about anyway.

Actually, even the PS4 has no 1080P 60 locked retail games. TR PS4 isn't 60 it averages 50.98. KS SF isn't close to 60. Drive Club is 30

 

Wut?

PS4
Killzone SF........1080p, 30-60 fps
DC Universe......1080p, 60 fps
Resogun...........1080p, 60 fps
DriveClub..........1080p, 30 fps (dev working on 60 fps)
Infamous..........1080p, 30 fps
COD Ghosts.......1080p, 60 fps
AC4 Black Flag...1080p, 30 fps
Tomb Raider......1080p, 60 fps
Watch Dogs.......1080p, 30 fps
Thief.................1080p, 30 fps
MGS V…….........1080p, 60 fps
The Witcher 3.....900p, 30 fps (dev working on 1080p)

Xbox One
Forza 5..............1080p, 60 fps
Ryse...................900p, 15-30 fps
Killer Instinct.......720p, 60 fps
DR 3...................720p, 30 fps
COD Ghosts.........720p, 60 fps
AC4 Black Flag.....900p, 30 fps
Tomb Raider......1080p, 30 fps (900p in cutscenes)
Watch Dogs........900p, 30 fps
Thief..................720p, 30 fps
MGS V……...........720p, 60 fps
The Witcher 3......720p, 30 fps

 

Edit: Added MGS V and The Witcher 3



Dark_Feanor on 30 January 2014
FlamingWeazel said:
Dark_Feanor said:
FlamingWeazel said:
Dark_Feanor said:
Are we back at octuber?

Those same old guys are telling the same old shit, as if they knew anything better to say. The same NeoGaf trinity.

the hell the UI had anything to do with native resolution and framerate?

I´m sick and tired of hearing about 1080p, especialy from people who knows nothing about making game and art.

There are so many things that make a game great and we are being condemed to talk about one of the least important points.

Does it bother any one here that 90% of past generation GOTY weren´t even 720p. Were people talking about resolution on the time Halo 3, Mass Effect, GTA 4, Uncharted 1 and 2 were all sub HD and none of those games ever get close to be 60fps?

That is a pathetic discution that makes me feel ashamed of this "jornalism".

Last gen games were 720P because it was LAST GEN LOL. If it;s pathetic why are you commenting on it? Performance, graphics, tech is important in gaming whether you think so or not.


They were not even 720p, and all Wii games where 480p.

Please take a time to read and make some research.


LAST GEN , if you have to resort to comapring x1 games against last then then...lol.  Racing games day/night weatehr is important to sim different driving conditions. Forza had majoe concessions to get 1080p and 60 FPS, DF points out fact. PS4 would not need said concessions. The technology diff is there whether you like it or not.

You know that were 1080p and 60fps last gen, don´t you? Also games that were both.

Well, I give up, you know nothing about the subject. Its clear.



FlamingWeazel on 30 January 2014
Dark_Feanor said:

You know that were 1080p and 60fps last gen, don´t you? Also games that were both.

Well, I give up, you know nothing about the subject. Its clear.


What does that have anything to do with ps4 being a lot more powerfull? Pong can be 1080p too what's your point? Talk about taking things out of context Before saying someone doesn;t know  the subject matter, re-read your arguments lol. OK last gen games with 1/5th textures, no next gen assets ran at 1080p, point?

 

Same games with the same assets, run on lower res, and FPS on X1 then PS4, and even worse effects.

 

Your damage control is hilarious.



Fusioncode on 30 January 2014
Zappykins said:
Xen said:
 

Killzone Shadowfall is on the XB1 AND is a second party game for it? :O

Why is every multiplat vastly inferior on the XB1?

Ha ha ha, Ryse: Son of Rome says hi!

And let's see - BF4 with a steady frame rate at a slightly lower resolution, or BF4 that hangs but with a barely noticible resolution.  Really?  You want to compair those?  Something, something, FPS need a consistant frame rate. 

But anyway, you're cute, and I'm sure people like you.  Hope you find some games to enjoy. Have a great day!

I own BF4 on PS4 and I haven't encountered any framerate issues. There was some lag at launch but that was due to EA's incompetence. Pretty much every of BF4 was problematic. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

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curl-6 on 30 January 2014
Mike_L said:
fallen said:

Dood doesn't know what he's talking about anyway.

Actually, even the PS4 has no 1080P 60 locked retail games. TR PS4 isn't 60 it averages 50.98. KS SF isn't close to 60. Drive Club is 30

 

Wut?

PS4
Killzone SF........1080p, 30-60 fps 
DC Universe......1080p, 60 fps
Resogun...........1080p, 60 fps
DriveClub..........1080p, 30 fps (dev working on 60 fps)
Infamous..........1080p, 30 fps
COD Ghosts.......1080p, 60 fps
AC4 Black Flag...1080p, 30 fps
Tomb Raider......1080p, 60 fps
Watch Dogs.......1080p, 30 fps (rumored)
Thief.................1080p, ? fps (rumored)

Ghosts on PS4 drops below 60fps quite a lot, sometimes as low as the 30s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c30B0rx2ql4



Mike_L on 30 January 2014
curl-6 said:
Mike_L said:
fallen said:

Dood doesn't know what he's talking about anyway.

Actually, even the PS4 has no 1080P 60 locked retail games. TR PS4 isn't 60 it averages 50.98. KS SF isn't close to 60. Drive Club is 30

 

Wut?

PS4
Killzone SF........1080p, 30-60 fps 
DC Universe......1080p, 60 fps
Resogun...........1080p, 60 fps
DriveClub..........1080p, 30 fps (dev working on 60 fps)
Infamous..........1080p, 30 fps
COD Ghosts.......1080p, 60 fps
AC4 Black Flag...1080p, 30 fps
Tomb Raider......1080p, 60 fps
Watch Dogs.......1080p, 30 fps (rumored)
Thief.................1080p, ? fps (rumored)

Ghosts on PS4 drops below 60fps quite a lot, sometimes as low as the 30s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c30B0rx2ql4

"Call of Duty: Ghosts PS4 judder caused by frame rate exceeding 60FPS"

http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/call_of_duty_ghosts/news/call_of_duty_ghosts_ps4_judder_caused_by_frame_rate_exceeding_60fps.html

 

Edit: Saw your vid. I didn't know that. Thanks. ;) I don't play Ghosts.



hinch on 30 January 2014

Depends on what developers are aiming for. 1080p/60fps is achievable on almost any modern games machine or PC (yes that includes PS3/360). It's just up to the people making them. Given the choice, though.. I'm pretty sure most devs would rather compromise on framerate, or a bit of resolution.. In favour of more of graphical fidelity.



NavyNut on 30 January 2014

I think the Xbox1 power compared to the WiiU is about the same as the PS2 vs Xbox.



FlamingWeazel on 30 January 2014
curl-6 said:
Mike_L said:
fallen said:

Dood doesn't know what he's talking about anyway.

Actually, even the PS4 has no 1080P 60 locked retail games. TR PS4 isn't 60 it averages 50.98. KS SF isn't close to 60. Drive Club is 30

 

Wut?

PS4
Killzone SF........1080p, 30-60 fps 
DC Universe......1080p, 60 fps
Resogun...........1080p, 60 fps
DriveClub..........1080p, 30 fps (dev working on 60 fps)
Infamous..........1080p, 30 fps
COD Ghosts.......1080p, 60 fps
AC4 Black Flag...1080p, 30 fps
Tomb Raider......1080p, 60 fps
Watch Dogs.......1080p, 30 fps (rumored)
Thief.................1080p, ? fps (rumored)

Ghosts on PS4 drops below 60fps quite a lot, sometimes as low as the 30s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c30B0rx2ql4

That was caused by it going OVER 60, and was patched.