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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Xbox One: 1080p/60fps Not Happening Anytime Soon, Not Enough Power But Tools Will Improve

DeadBigfoot21 on 30 January 2014

There are already like 7 games that run at 1080p @60fps so i beg to differ.



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curl-6 on 30 January 2014
FlamingWeazel said:
curl-6 said:
Mike_L said:
fallen said:

Dood doesn't know what he's talking about anyway.

Actually, even the PS4 has no 1080P 60 locked retail games. TR PS4 isn't 60 it averages 50.98. KS SF isn't close to 60. Drive Club is 30

 

Wut?

PS4
Killzone SF........1080p, 30-60 fps 
DC Universe......1080p, 60 fps
Resogun...........1080p, 60 fps
DriveClub..........1080p, 30 fps (dev working on 60 fps)
Infamous..........1080p, 30 fps
COD Ghosts.......1080p, 60 fps
AC4 Black Flag...1080p, 30 fps
Tomb Raider......1080p, 60 fps
Watch Dogs.......1080p, 30 fps (rumored)
Thief.................1080p, ? fps (rumored)

Ghosts on PS4 drops below 60fps quite a lot, sometimes as low as the 30s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c30B0rx2ql4

That was caused by it going OVER 60, and was patched.

In Digital Foundry's patch analysis: (Which still shows screen tearing and drops into the 40s)

"Having reviewed the patch captures, there's an odd issue with tearing which caused some confusion, but we're fairly convinced now that in the revised version of the game at least, any judder is down to frame-rate drops and not the game running faster than 60Hz."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-whats-fixed-and-whats-not-in-the-cod-ghosts-ps4-patch



FlamingWeazel on 30 January 2014
curl-6 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
curl-6 said:
Mike_L said:
fallen said:

Dood doesn't know what he's talking about anyway.

Actually, even the PS4 has no 1080P 60 locked retail games. TR PS4 isn't 60 it averages 50.98. KS SF isn't close to 60. Drive Club is 30

 

Wut?

PS4
Killzone SF........1080p, 30-60 fps 
DC Universe......1080p, 60 fps
Resogun...........1080p, 60 fps
DriveClub..........1080p, 30 fps (dev working on 60 fps)
Infamous..........1080p, 30 fps
COD Ghosts.......1080p, 60 fps
AC4 Black Flag...1080p, 30 fps
Tomb Raider......1080p, 60 fps
Watch Dogs.......1080p, 30 fps (rumored)
Thief.................1080p, ? fps (rumored)

Ghosts on PS4 drops below 60fps quite a lot, sometimes as low as the 30s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c30B0rx2ql4

That was caused by it going OVER 60, and was patched.

In Digital Foundry's patch analysis: (Which still shows screen tearing and drops into the 40s)

"Having reviewed the patch captures, there's an odd issue with tearing which caused some confusion, but we're fairly convinced now that in the revised version of the game at least, any judder is down to frame-rate drops and not the game running faster than 60Hz."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-whats-fixed-and-whats-not-in-the-cod-ghosts-ps4-patch

Into the 40's you said 30. and x1 also has frame drops and that's 720p. more of a dev issue then anything



Krill on 30 January 2014

There's only one tool that needs to improve here, and that's Pete Dodd.



bubblegamer on 30 January 2014
DeadBigfoot21 said:
There are already like 7 games that run at 1080p @60fps so i beg to differ.


Name 4?



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curl-6 on 30 January 2014
FlamingWeazel said:
curl-6 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
curl-6 said:

Ghosts on PS4 drops below 60fps quite a lot, sometimes as low as the 30s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c30B0rx2ql4

That was caused by it going OVER 60, and was patched.

In Digital Foundry's patch analysis: (Which still shows screen tearing and drops into the 40s)

"Having reviewed the patch captures, there's an odd issue with tearing which caused some confusion, but we're fairly convinced now that in the revised version of the game at least, any judder is down to frame-rate drops and not the game running faster than 60Hz."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-whats-fixed-and-whats-not-in-the-cod-ghosts-ps4-patch

Into the 40's you said 30. and x1 also has frame drops and that's 720p. more of a dev issue then anything

And it was into the 30s, in the framerate analysis video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c30B0rx2ql4

I'm just saying, I don't think it's a useful example of 1080p/60fps when it so often drops below. (And tears frames)



torok on 30 January 2014
Xen said:

CoD at more than twice the resolution, Tomb Raider 20+ FPS more (with bigger resolution during cutscenes, too!).

BF4 is bugged as heck everywhere, btw.

But cheers, enjoy drinking that microsoft kool-aid while you're playing Ryse and waiting for the truth to come out.


But, but... those were nice screenshots for a 900p game... 



Bet with jetforcejiminy: PS4 will pass the Wii lifetime numbers.

Zekkyou on 30 January 2014
Zappykins said:
Xen said:
Zappykins said:
Ugh, seriously? They already confirmed Halo 5 or whatever is 1080p60. Plus Forza and other games do it.

The GPU's between the two really aren't that different. Both are underpowered as they should have been 2.5 Tflops, but even then isn't that much of a change - as you need to double power for humans to really notice.

Stop spreading FUD!

Yeah... the PS4's GPU is just ~50% more powerful, not that big a diffrence...

Stop spreading FUD!

Then why is the best looking game for the new gen a 2nd party game on the Xbox One?

That's both debatable and also irrelevant. The only 2 exclusive games we can really compare right now are Ryse and Killzone, and they are hardly comparable anyway. Ignoring their totally different art styles and camera, one went for more confined environments, a lower resolution and less real time events on screen, the other went with large open areas, high amounts of on screen events, a higher resolution and a higher frame rate.

Seeing as the opinion on the two is very split, and they are so different both in their style and tech, we can't really compare them. Until we have actual comparable games (Uncharted/Gears - Killzone/Halo), all discussion on the matter are pointless. All we can legitimately compare right now are the multi-plats, and the X1 is being rather consistently butt sapped in that area.



Azerth on 30 January 2014

Aslong as the games look good and are fun to play I can wait



shloob on 30 January 2014

All it takes is one game running at 1080p natively and 60 fps to make this statement null and void. Oh hello Forza.