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AZWification on 29 January 2014
AwakeandAlive said:
you can delete this thread. mistranslation

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Hynad on 29 January 2014

Oh... The correct translation is: Tageting children isn't enough.


Well, no shit, Sherlock (Nintendo). About time you realize this.



Mr Khan on 29 January 2014

Instead of locking the thread, i've simply modified it a little.



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Fusioncode on 29 January 2014
ninetailschris said:
Fusioncode said:
ninetailschris said:
Fusioncode said:
It's official, Nintendo is completely clueless.


How? This isn't only directed to you but everyone. Coming by and dropping the "facepalm" or "clueless" doesn't say anything but the inability to form an argument. 

The fact is the strongest sales of games of nintendo systems tend to be family friendly. Back during the GameCube days nintendo made lots of hardcore games, who bought them? Nobody. On wii was metriod selling any units? Nope. GameCube highest software sales were from family games. Get a clue guys he objectivly screwed up by not releasing games in the beginning that marketed to this. His job should been to get some of the market of the wii. Which should have been a 250 system with family games like mario kart. 

 

Its like you guys think only one type of market exist and if you  don't follow it you have no market. This why you are not qualified to run a business because you guys have narrow view of business.

Because they've been doing nothing BUT targeting children. Have you seen the recent WiiU ads? Here they are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bso27e3Inzc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsbeQeiwW9o

Nintendo has a huge image problem in that they're seen as the "kiddie" console. Microsoft and Sony have done a great job over the years by making Nintendo's platform seem like something only children should buy. How many teenagers get together to play Call of Duty on their WiiUs?  The big N hasn't exactly done a lot to fix their imaging problem. Marketing primarily to kids is a stupid idea considering kids are getting more and more into smartphones and tablets. The WiiU won't be able to survive with just kids buying it. 

The problem is kids and adults still don't know what the wii u is. They screwed up there with the wiiu and will never get any audience because of the name. The ad is the proof of that. If the wiiu was called wii 2 it would have sold a lot better with the launch of mario kart at 250. Only chance now is if they rebrand the wiiu to wii 2 or kill it. The wii was simple to understand and market. Perfect for the family. The wiiu isn't that. It has confusing controller and name. 

Onto your argument about teenagers. That is irrelevant because the wii proved that the market is strong in other areas. You say teenagers and I say what about the low sales of casual games on ps3? You say what about the 18-32. I say about the 50-72 that bought the wii? The imaging problem is only problem if your marketing at the wrong audience. You are proving my point. If you have image you can either use it to your advantage or disadvantage. A successful business man says the glass is half-full instead of half-empty. Trying to get the other audience is by your own admitted words counterproductive. 

Saying people are now on to tablets and smartphone isn't an argument. Casual games on the wii are still outselling the Xbox or ps3 versions by far. Look at just dance and Disney games. The 3ds which is at 42 million proves you wrong. Nintendo problem was they made an anti-casual console to point were it is simply unattractive to casuals.

The problem here is that Nintendo isn't marketing to 18-32 or 50-72 or any market besides little kids. Nintendo is saying they should be targeting children MORE, when in reality they've been marketing to children far too much. The only casual franchise on the Wii that's still selling well is Just Dance. That's another problem with marketing exclusively to kids, they don't desire console upgrades the same way teenagers and adults do. Why would a parent buy their kid a $300 console just to play a game they can already play on their Wii. And I don't see how 3DS numbers prove me wrong, they're far below what the DS was doing at the same point in time. 3DS has been disappointing in EU and NA while doing extremely well in Japan. 

But apparantly this whole thing was a mistranslation and Nintendo actually agrees with me here. They should start targeting other markets. 

 



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ninetailschris on 29 January 2014
Lafiel said:
ninetailschris said:
He is right. Families and children are nintendo biggest market. The problem they made was in the beginning trying to attract the 18-32 year old. Nintendo ips tend to natural draw kids and families.

exactly, I mean the 18-32 year manchild market has shown it's waaay too small, after all Nintendo specifically targeted them with NSMBU, SML3D, Pikmin 3, Nintendoland, Zelda WW HD and The Wonderful 101 - they should finally target kids and families, like Call of Duty has shown time and time again

 

and I was obviously kidding


When you say pikmin 3 and wonderful 101 I think you don't understand the difference between a casual/kid game and kiddy looking game. Wonderful 101 is not a casual game. Complex nature of the game is not suited towards casuals or kids.



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pokoko on 29 January 2014

I hope the new translation is more accurate because it certainly makes more sense.

Right now, the Wii U does not offer enough diversity. The aesthetics are very one-sided. More of the same will only attract--that's right--the same people who already own a Wii U. Bayonetta 2 and X are coming, sure, but they might be too little, too late.

I wouldn't say that Nintendo has been too focused on children but rather that the Wii U's offerings have been too one-dimensional.



AwakeandAlive on 29 January 2014

seriously...Nintendo released ONLY casual games in 2013. Do you REALLY think, that Iwata said that they haven´t targeting children enough ?



bubblegamer on 29 January 2014

Let's hope Nintendo decides to focus their attention on adult gamers as well. The biggest reason why i haven't been interested in anything Nintendo offers since the GameCube time is because i find their games too child oriented.



Soundwave on 29 January 2014

Introducing for Wii U ...

Zelda: A Link In Diapers

Every character is a cute baby!



eyeofcore on 29 January 2014

I guess there weren't any teens or adults on Nintendo's commercial... Right?

I looked at all commercials that Nintendo made and it is not targeting kids... if it was a kid then there would not be only teens and adults in primary commercials from Nintendo except a few. You people fail to confirm the factual. Confirmation bias you suffer from? Probably...