crissindahouse said:
DonFerrari said:
crissindahouse said:
DonFerrari said:
When december was over and 3M seemed good they used sell through, but then Sony announces 4.2M and it doesn't look so hot anymore so let's go to 3.9M shipped. That is spin.
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No, they only released their financial statement yesterday, that's why they only talk now about what they sold (3.9m) and not what retail sold (around 3m).
You expect that they talk about their own numbers a month before they release their numbers? This makes no sense.
This is really not that hard to understand.
It also means that the next quarter will look worse in their financial statement as it would if sold to consumers would be higher since retail needs less new consoles to have enough for their customers.
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They knew the 3M from day one updates and other methods on December 31st but not the shipping number?
One week they use sell (to customer) the next use sell (to retail) without being specific and you want to say spin wasn't the reason?
And the worst is that he pretended not to know he was spinning and when called out act as if they weren't using the same words with different meaning a week earlier. And even patronize the guy who expose his spin.
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Who said that they didn't know it? They simply don't report their own numbers before their financial statements which is pretty obvious. Before they release THEIR sales numbers they talk about what retail sold when they talk about sales numbers. That's why they called it "sold to consumers".
With the same logic you call Microsoft out I could do the same with you. I could say that you spin what Microsoft said to let them look bad. They first talked about sold to consumers numbers before they released their finacnial statements. Now someone from Microsoft talked about sold numbers one day after their financial statement because it simply is what Microsoft sold and you try to tell everyone it is a lie or spinning
Who exactly is spinning the truth? They to let them look good or you to let them look bad? I wouldn't be too sure about that...
I mean, what do you ask Microsoft for? Not to talk about their sales just because it's not the number retail sold? Seriously? What's next? Changing their revenue numbers even if they got the money because the console is still on shelves?
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Ms can release their financial numbers anytime they like if it's publically done, but won't enter the merit of why they didn't..
What I'm asking is clarity. If you are talking to people that isn't 100% knowledeble about a subject You must write in a way everyone knows what they are talking about.
Nobody complained about Ms using 3.9 at their financial release, but here he is talking mostly to fans not informed investors.
About making look better or worst their number make them look worst because 900k on shelves at this moment is bad no matter what.
