When december was over and 3M seemed good they used sell through, but then Sony announces 4.2M and it doesn't look so hot anymore so let's go to 3.9M shipped. That is spin.

If now Sony says it shipped 4.5M will Ms count consoles on the ships and factory to equalize it?

Kowen have got his PhD in spinnology and deflecting.

Moderated,

-Mr Khan

You're right, Sony did it during all the generation too. But i don't remember a "Greenberg" from Sony saying shipped and sold were basically the same...And the problem here is that Microsoft, like Sony, was saying until now always "sold to consumers", so people related the "2m in 18 days", "3m until 31 december", with this "3'9m sold", the only intention here is to fool people.

But for me, what they're trying to hide is the fact there's 900k Xbox One unsold already, THAT'S A LOT (23% of total stock) for a console that just launched in less than 2 months and in Christmas....when the competion is considered to be soldout everywhere (and still shipped more).

I can understand them doing this, is their job and their company, but they should just do it different, with no stupid spins.

everyone who has been on this site for many years really should know better. sold its the term they use on their reports. sell through is a term they use from time to time to cover sold to end users.
he might have been able to handle the guy a little better by bringing that up, but he's dealing with a guy with an agenda who would take anything as spin anyway.

How would you define the summation of different generation consoles?

No, they only released their financial statement yesterday, that's why they only talk now about what they sold (3.9m) and not what retail sold (around 3m).

You expect that they talk about their own numbers a month before they release their numbers? This makes no sense.

This is really not that hard to understand. 

It also means that the next quarter will look worse in their financial statement as it would if sold to consumers would be higher since retail needs less new consoles to have enough for their customers.

First we argue about FPS and resolution. Then we argue about Teraflops. Now we argue about semantics on a twitter message. Wonder what's the next step in the console wars, they are so entertaining!

Wrong lol. If it was as simple as you are trying to make it they wouldn't have shipped needing a update. The consumers also needed a internet connection. It wasn't a flip of switch at all.

It was a flip switch allright. The made a patch available and voila, problem solved!

Lol at this PR representative David Dennis idiot:

"We sold through nearly every unit we could in the holiday period and pulled forward as many units as we could from Q3. However, only some of those shipments were sold into the channel in the final period of the quarter and so there was not time to sell the units through to customers,"

In a financial report, you absolutely cannot factor in any units from a future quarter. This is a typical clueless PR twit that has either no idea of what he is talking about - or he knows very well what he is trying to obfuscate here.

The reality is that units manufactured in the last december weeks weren't due to be on shelves before January (transit times 3-4 weeks) - which IS in the next quarter. 

Notice the mega-pr-flap he made: What he inadvertedly admits, though, is the fact that NOT all of the 900k units in transit were actually sold into the retail channel! Boy is he going to be in trouble when the boss calls him in for a "discussion of his latest contribution".