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fallen on 23 January 2014
KingdomHeartsFan said:
fallen said:


Also, I will say Neogaf is running their usual spin if you look at it carefully. Eatchildren says the XBO version runs at unlocked 30, which gets up to 45 in some areas, even though he implies not often, I expect he is trying to spin it negatively for xbox, so it's probably often. Then he says PS4 is 60 but with a few dips into 50's.

So the reality is not 60 vs 30, it's an average of, lets say 37.5 (split the difference of 30 and 45 for XBO) vs say, 55 on PS4. Notice how Eatchildren tried to highlight the best case for PS4 (60) and the worst case for Xbox (30)

That only makes sense if its 60 FPS half the time and 45 half the time on PS4 and 30 FPS and 45 FPS half the time on X1.  My guess, and whats way more likely, is its gonna be 60 FPS MOST the time on PS4 and ocasionally 45 FPS, if that's even true.  Its funny you say that people try to say the best case for PS4 and worst case for X1, please stop playing the victum card already, FPS is usually 30 or 60 that's why people rounded them to those numbers.


I'm not playing the victim card, I'm noticing inconsistencies in EatChildren's wording. He says the Xbox One can go up to 45, and the PS4 can dip below 60.

 

I'm just wondering what the averages will be.

 

Oh well, we find out soon...

Also slight correction, to average 55 would mean 50 half the time and 60 half the time on PS4...

Just to show you this can happen, here is an alledged 60 FPS PS4 game when put under the microscope, you'll see it falls as low as 38 FPS at times (maybe lower, I didn't watch the whole thing)   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlAYu_Vs-js

 

What if Tomb Raider PS4's FPS behaves like this? Or maybe it's actually very close to 60. I'd rather wait and see.



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Too_Talls on 23 January 2014

hmm, pretty sure x1 being the 2nd most powerful system was established.

This game doesn't interest most people.......

No need for this to be a war thread.........



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GribbleGrunger on 23 January 2014
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Lots of reasons, what if all your friends are on Xbox?

 

For me the biggie is controller. Probably the single biggest reason I stick Xbox. Just dont like the dual shock.

 

So yes I'd rather play the slightly inferior version with the controller I vastly prefer.


Yeah, fair enough :)



 

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Normchacho on 23 January 2014
fallen said:
Normchacho said:
fallen said:
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lol we're barely 2 months in and the difference is this visible already!


Same game, same graphics, a (rumored, not confirmed) minor difference in framerate (again, Eat says it goes up to 45 on XBO amd into the 50's on PS4).

 

Yep, a whole 1% of people will notice this huge difference...the average person at Wal Mart will think these games are IDENTICAL.


You mean a confirmed 100% gap in framerate.

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Not 100%. (PS4 dips below 60, XBOX runs up to 45) and NOT confirmed until digital foundry runs their framerate machine on it imo. What if it "turns out" PS4 averages 52 and XBO averages 42? Or hell they could both end up capped at a rock solid 30 for all we know.

 

Even if it is I'll say again I dont care, the fact it's 1080P on XBO is the key for me. I'm not a person who notices framerate much.

 

It's fodder for fanboy wars mainly.

No, No. It was confirmed to be 60 fps by several sources.

"The Xbox One build can technically reach around 45 fps, though this performance is generally only achieved during the most empty, simplest environments. For most of your play, and during action scenes, the Xbox One build will sit on around 30 fps."

"the PlayStation 4 build will attempt to hit 60 fps as often as possible, and does a pretty good job of doing so, but does have slight dips under 60 fps during certain scenarios."

"Both 1080p. PlayStation 4 = ~60fps average. Xbox One = ~30fps average"

Just because it doesn't matter to you doesn't mean it doesn't matter at all.



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Mr Puggsly on 23 January 2014
ganoncrotch said:
Mr Puggsly said:
ganoncrotch said:
Mr Puggsly said:
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what frame rate did Tomb raider run at on the Xbox360 btw?


Analysis videos I've seen seem to average 30 fps and it dips around the 20s.


so being upgraded from the 720p of the 360 to the 1080p but maintaining the same fps on the X1 allows them to title it "the definitive edition"? I can see a lot of Ps4 versions of multiplatform games taking that subtitle for themselves if this is the case.

Based on the source of this fps thing tho, I'll wait to see digital foundries breakdown before I'd believe it to be 100% true, no point a game being labeled at 60fps if it comes at the cost of torn frames or random drops at points, would actually rather a stable 30 than a stuttering 60 if I'm honest. Every other resolution "scandel" has been based on Digital foundry info and so should this tbh not someone on twitch saying it feels like 60fps.

I had a feeling that was going to be your response. You just needed someone to set it up, right? Obviously the "definitive" title is just an attention grabber, as is GOTY or Ultimate.

I'm curious to see what's the FPS situation on the X1 version. Seems like the people in that video were avoiding discussion about it.


well I normally look at the subtitle - "game of the year edition" to mean the version which comes with all the dlc pre installed on the disk so that has meaning. Notice how no one is asking for a PC version of "the definitive version" lol.

Definitive could mean it includes all the DLC as well... just like "Ultimate." That subtitle means whatever the publisher wants it to.

People have asked if the "definitive" version is coming to PC since it has improvments not found on the PC version. lol



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Normchacho on 23 January 2014
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I'm not playing the victim card, I'm noticing inconsistencies in EatChildren's wording. He says the Xbox One can go up to 45, and the PS4 can dip below 60.

 

I'm just wondering what the averages will be.

 

Oh well, we find out soon...

Also slight correction, to average 55 would mean 50 half the time and 60 half the time on PS4...

Just to show you this can happen, here is an alledged 60 FPS PS4 game when put under the microscope, you'll see it falls as low as 38 FPS at times (maybe lower, I didn't watch the whole thing)   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlAYu_Vs-js

 

What if Tomb Raider PS4's FPS behaves like this? Or maybe it's actually very close to 60. I'd rather wait and see.

They say what the averages will be. They even said the Xbox One version only hits 45 fps in the most baren of situations. It's a lost cause my friend. Just let it happen.



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Ganoncrotch on 23 January 2014
Mr Puggsly said:
 

Definitive could mean it includes all the DLC as well... just like "Ultimate." That subtitle means whatever the publisher wants it to.

People have asked if the "definitive" version is coming to PC since it has improvments not found on the PC version. lol


Really? I can't picture anyone shelling out full price for what would be basically a patch worth for the PC game I'd say? or is it something huge?

 

edit -  sorry to clarify I mean the Ps3 version of this comes in at around 7euros now, but ofc you can't use that on the ps4 anyway so if you want to play it on your new system you have to pay, that isn't the case at all with the PC.



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Troll_Whisperer on 23 January 2014

That's a pretty huge difference. Was there any similar case in the previous gen where a 360 game was running at double the frame rate?

Bayonetta and Skyrim run quite worse on PS3, but not at half the frame rate, and that was mainly due to poor porting jobs. It seems the difference is going to be quite pronounced this time around.



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kupomogli on 23 January 2014

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NobleTeam360 on 23 January 2014

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