That ends in March. I was talking launch Holiday. Wii U sales died Q1 2013.

my points remain the same. Price and library are obviously in the GC's favor.

The Mario games on GBA were all rereleases so thats not a fair comparison

OoT 3D did better than LTTP on GBA because OoT is by far the most popular Zelda title, not because Zelda is bigger now

Ur right about Fire Emblem but thats a very small franchise and only amounted to a 250k increase over the GBA installment, pretty negligible

There was no Animal Crossing on GBA to compare to but the Wii version didnt outsell the GC version by much despite having 5x the install base

DK Returns barely outsold DK64 despite 3x the install base

1) I didn't know that. Fair enough.

2) It's also just a remake. I think that fact evens things out. If not, Zelda on Wii U should be better than Windwaker. Of course, this is both subjective and speculation.

3) True. I was just naming another series. I agree it won't make a difference.

4) Animal Crossing has definitely grown but we will see I guess. It went from a random new IP to growing a fanbase.

5) The N64 sold 20 Million in America. DK probably helped. The GC didn't have it. Wii U will. With DK, I wasn't saying he grew, I was just saying the GC didn't have one while Wii U will.

Fire Emblem as a series is doing better because Ninty got smart and started releasing it in more places. It wasnt that long ago it was strictly Japan only

Animal Crossing is blowing up. 

Smash, lets not count our chickens before they hatch. i fully expect the Wii U one to NOT match Wii sales one. Then it cant be used.

TP nearly doesnt cut it. and you ignore SS which sold less, if anything we can say its on the decline. IMHO i dont see the Wii U one matching TP sales either. maybe Cube version by itself.

that makes no sense, you are trying to prove that the series has grown but then say that subsequent sequels on the same system do worst? that means the series hasnt grown. Hell the best selling in the series is STILL OoT thats just then N64 version released on a system with half the install base of Wii.

Animal Crossing is getting more popular. thats all.

what is this trend? because if Smash Wii U does worst than the Wii version (which it probably wil) that means the series did NOT grow. or it grew and shrank again but its the same effect as not growing.

FE ok fair enough

I can't speak for anybody else but I personally was just saying their games have grown since the GC days. Not saying they will outsell their Wii counterparts. The userbase won't be there to do it. 

ok thats kind of a given. But i dont think that helps your overall point, as those Wii guys they gained probably havent stayed around, so it will probably go right back to GC sales, which would show no growth.

The thing is u guys are trying to say that Wii/DS have caused those franchises to grow since the GC era. We dont know yet if they really have grown or they just benefitted from a vastly larger install base.

Animal Crossing only saw slight growth on Wii compared to GC, there wasnt a GBA version to compare the handheld versions but the 3DS version likely wont pass the DS version.

As for Smash ot did see big growth but the next one is split among 2 platforms whoch could potentially eat into each others sales 

Twilight Princess sold less than Ocarina and Skyward Sword sold about the same as Majora despite 3x the install base

GC sold 21 Million

Wii sold 100 Million

Difference = 79 Million. Let's just assume that a good chunk comes from people who had more than one Wii.

Growth = 60 Million.

I don't expect all those people to come back I'd think at least a few million would once the price is right and the games are there. Of course, I could be wrong but I find it hard to believe EVERY single person is gone.

Dream While Awake? Well... It sells more on Japan, so you basically are saying it would do 21M on NA what would led to more than 50M globally, maybe even higher? It would be lucky if it outsells the GC with their entire global numbers.