Let's see how this thread goes. It should be lots of fun!

that is true for every fanbase.

You wouldn´t believe how often I stuumbled upon some redicolous hatefilled masseges on this very forum that made me say "I don´t want a Vita".

I don't understand how or why people hate any true game company. Nintendo has been making the same games and types of games for generations bring the exact same love of creation, fun, and fantasy that came with their titles: Zelda, Mario, Metroid, and countless others. The goal has never been to make a crapload of money but to bring an experience that people would enjoy and probably enrich your time spent with the medium. Of course profits dictate whether or not you can duplicate this experience again. I challenge gamers on this site in particular to read and watch the developer interviews and listen to the passion of the developers especially Miyamoto and Wii Music. Wii Music wasn't a hit but you can see what his intent was with the software. 

Technology is finally catching up to the vision of Zelda and say a Mario. Where the goal and intent can be realized. I dont get brand loyalty. I dont get today's gamers at all. I don't care how many Wii U consoles are sold as long as I get a great products. I know that there are enough consoles to keep the titles I would love to play rolling in. So as long as Smash, Yoshi, and Mario Kart are released then I good. I would certainly stack the quality of: Kirby Yarn, Metroid Prime 3, Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart, Smash Bros. Brawl, Even Metroid other M and countless titles to any library from any other console, but see its not about that. I am a lifetime gamer 40+ systems over 1000 real games no ROMS. I care about the experience. I am not loyal to any console maker or company I am loyal to the great experience and passion of gaming. 

It seems to me that most so called harcore gamers are really casual gamers who hop in and out of online matches and, some not all, fail to demand a true single player experience. But thats them and I respect it. This console war is sickening. Here is a great thing to ponder, 4 million PS4 sold and over 1 million copies of the same COD and Battlefield that people already bought. I have a PS4 and I still cant figure out what people are playing that is so transformative and entertaining? A better looking COD or 2K14? Killzone? It's not transformative it just another version of the game. The experiences I play on the Wii U cant be played anywhere else: Pikmin, Mario 3DW, 101, even ZombiU makes me thing of the genre differently than before. So you can love the sales but you cant tell me you bought a PS4 just for COD? You did it for the promise of a good game. Not guaranteed good games. These titles are out and you should be buying a Wii U to support great programing that thinks differently. Games dont need to be violent or swear to be good, but that comes with the territory of some genres. It's like saying a pixar or disney movie cant be good because it isnt violent or have swearing. 

C'mon gamers where are you. Why are you loyal to companies like Sony, Nintendo, or Xbox (Microsoft). You should demand excellent games not that think and act differently not another COD, 2K14, Madden, Assassin Creed, or Forza. Why should all systems have the same experience? I dont want a system that is a me too. Like you want to play that game I have it on the Wii U (look, me too). Not me I want originality. Give me MadWorld, not because it's violent but because it's like nothing else Ive played in 3 generations of gaming. 

kupomogli said: Xen said: I'm not sure what to say.................... or if I should even say anything.......hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm yeahhhhh let's see how this plays out I don't mind admitting it.  I have no problem telling people I don't like Nintendo.  Doesn't mean I can't purchase their systems.  Although the mindset of some people.  If you don't like a company you're automatically biased over them and won't give their games a chance, etc, etc, stuff like that.

I've no problem to admit I don't like stuff... but I am so sarcasm and thought overloaded that padib has the right idea......

I dislike fanboys who just hate for no reason. Grow up.

I hate to say it but Sony fans are really showing no class in many threads these days. The only worse than a sore loser is a sore winner. Some class and grace would be nice. 

Pretty much...

Oh salvatore, what are we going to do with you

Most Sony fans were Nintendo fans first.  Sony came along and produced a larger variety of good games while Nintendo stayed the same, losing third party support, and over the recent decade, has started pushing out worse games than when we were hardcore fans back in the day. 

Most of my dislike actually comes from Nintendo's ideas in the past.  Their stranglehold on third party developers with forced contractual agreements to stay exclusive to them for this long, etc.  Sony actually came in like a white knight and freed third party developers from that.  All the hype surrounding the original Playstation, a lot of developers decided to go multiconsole with Sony and Sega.

Mario has been in like what... 100+ games... Time for Nintendo to put this dead horse down. Now Luigi.. You could probably milk him a little bit longer. My recommendation is Super Luigi Universe.

Psssh I like the games they make today more than I did in the gamecube era.