Sometimes I think you use the attach rate and software to hardware ratios as an easy way of getting out of discussions, without actually understanding the numbers youre spouting.

An average number does not translate to universal acceptance, its a console that was on sale for 8 years, detracting the game included with virtually every console sold, thats less than 1 game per year for each unit sold, and consider this, if someone bought a console and decided within a few months they no longer wanted it, many would have traded it in towards something they did want, that used console would then be sold again, and the person that bought it likely to pick up a game or two in their lifetime with the console also - with that in mind, your stance on the situation is EXTREMELY narrow minded, as narrow minded as the cliche you keep attacking.

That console would go on to sell a few more software units, but the fact would remain the person that originally bought it, ditched it, potentially within a month - this cycle could, and possible did fairly often, repeat multiple times, the software sales would be high as a result, but the software sales wouldnt change the fact the console was abandoned, would it?

If anything the high software sales compared to hardware sales suggests that a lot of it was down to second hand unit owners buying games, which suggests a lot of users did not stick with their purchases.

Also, given that the hardware has been discontinued, by your own admission, comparing hardware to software sales means absolutely nothing.

one day the stock levels will drop to sub 100 units, and software will still be seeing 50,000 or so units worldwide, that would be a 1:500 ratio, does that mean anything worthwhile? no, not at all.

then that doesnt answer my question. Where did all those 100 mil wii owners go? cause as it stands right now it would have retained 1/5th of its audience, for comparison's that much worst than Sony which went form 150mil PS2 to 80mil PS3

You can try to twist it as much as you like, the idea will still be, always has been, and always will be, ridiculous fanboy propaganda.

The numbers say it all. A console nobody sticks with for more than a month WILL NOT sell 8 games per system. You realize games get traded in too? Your scenario of consoles circulating while games just accumulate is absurd.

Yes, yes, because people who buy second hand consoles never buy new games do they, right, okay.

I think we're done here.

And cos people who buy a new console never buy second hand games?

You're right about one thing, it's clear we are simply not going to agree here.

I'm off to go play all 9 of my PS3 games like the numbers say 82.2 million PS3 owners each have, after all, the numbers don't lie right?

Sometimes I think you use the attach rate and software to hardware ratios as an easy way of getting out of discussions, without actually understanding the numbers youre spouting.

An average number does not translate to universal acceptance, its a console that was on sale for 8 years, detracting the game included with virtually every console sold, thats less than 1 game per year for each unit sold, and consider this, if someone bought a console and decided within a few months they no longer wanted it, many would have traded it in towards something they did want, that used console would then be sold again, and the person that bought it likely to pick up a game or two in their lifetime with the console also - with that in mind, your stance on the situation is EXTREMELY narrow minded, as narrow minded as the cliche you keep attacking.

That console would go on to sell a few more software units, but the fact would remain the person that originally bought it, ditched it, potentially within a month - this cycle could, and possible did fairly often, repeat multiple times, the software sales would be high as a result, but the software sales wouldnt change the fact the console was abandoned, would it?

If anything the high software sales compared to hardware sales suggests that a lot of it was down to second hand unit owners buying games, which suggests a lot of users did not stick with their purchases.

Also, given that the hardware has been discontinued, by your own admission, comparing hardware to software sales means absolutely nothing.

one day the stock levels will drop to sub 100 units, and software will still be seeing 50,000 or so units worldwide, that would be a 1:500 ratio, does that mean anything worthwhile? no, not at all.