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lucidium said:
curl-6 said:
lucidium said:
curl-6 said:

Sat on their hands? Hardly. Many are playing Mario Kart, Skylanders, Just Dance, and Disney Infinity on their Wiis.

Your "many" and my "many" mean dramatically different things, I think you'll find a large majority of them are now playing on tablets, phones and other consoles.

I know it can be hard to accept that people "switch sides", but its reality, not everyone is as ferrociously loyal as vgchartz forumers.

Obviously people switch sides, the drop from PS2 to PS3 is proof enough of that. But the "everyone just used it for a month, never touched it again" cliche is simply out of touch with reality. If it were true, we'd be seeing a 2-4 attach rate, and Wii software wouldn't have outsold Wii hardware this latest week by 21:1.

Sometimes I think you use the attach rate and software to hardware ratios as an easy way of getting out of discussions, without actually understanding the numbers youre spouting.

An average number does not translate to universal acceptance, its a console that was on sale for 8 years, detracting the game included with virtually every console sold, thats less than 1 game per year for each unit sold, and consider this, if someone bought a console and decided within a few months they no longer wanted it, many would have traded it in towards something they did want, that used console would then be sold again, and the person that bought it likely to pick up a game or two in their lifetime with the console also - with that in mind, your stance on the situation is EXTREMELY narrow minded, as narrow minded as the cliche you keep attacking.

That console would go on to sell a few more software units, but the fact would remain the person that originally bought it, ditched it, potentially within a month - this cycle could, and possible did fairly often, repeat multiple times, the software sales would be high as a result, but the software sales wouldnt change the fact the console was abandoned, would it?

If anything the high software sales compared to hardware sales suggests that a lot of it was down to second hand unit owners buying games, which suggests a lot of users did not stick with their purchases.

Also, given that the hardware has been discontinued, by your own admission, comparing hardware to software sales means absolutely nothing.

one day the stock levels will drop to sub 100 units, and software will still be seeing 50,000 or so units worldwide, that would be a 1:500 ratio, does that mean anything worthwhile? no, not at all.

he's been using attach rates in all manner of discussion, its literally all he has left, the Wii u is tracking lower than even Ninty's own worst selling console, so he uses these attach numbers, nvm that they are useless to try to...I dont what he's trying to prove really.