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lucidium said:
curl-6 said:

Nobody buys 7-8 games when they buy  a console. 

This week, 14 months after it was replaced, Wii sold 21 times as much software as hardware.

1) They do if it was a christmas present they received with games, that they barely touched after a few months.

2) With sales as low as the Wii is getting hardware wise that is hardly surprising, a more telling fact is only having 3 games in the top 75 of software sales, 2 of those 3 clearly there for the same reason colonial marines is, that being bargain bin purchases.

curl-6 said:

If every Wii owner dropped the system like a bad habit, the attach rate would be 2-4. It's not, it's 7-8.

If lots of people were still buying wiiu games then the software to hardware ratio would be at least 1 in 35 wii owners buying games, but t's not, it's 1 in 107.

Let's take a look at these consoles in more detail.

PS4 - 1 in 7
XBO - 1 in 7
WiiU - 1 in 9
PS3 - 1 in 28
X360 - 1 in 33
Wii - 1 in 107

Well that pretty much puts game buying versus available customers into perspective now doesn't it, fat load of different that attach rate you love to churn out makes.

You're delusional if you think 100 million people all bought 7-8 games within the first month of buying a console, then abandoned it permanently. You're perpetuating a myth that is as absurd as it is propaganda.



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curl-6 said:

You're delusional if you think  100 million people all bought 7-8 games within the first month of buying a console. You're perpetuating a myth that is as absurd as it is propaganda.

They clearly aren't tripping over themselves to buy games anymore, are they.



lucidium said:
curl-6 said:

You're delusional if you think  100 million people all bought 7-8 games within the first month of buying a console. You're perpetuating a myth that is as absurd as it is propaganda.

They clearly aren't tripping over themselves to buy games anymore, are they.

the system was essentially retired some time ago.



oniyide said:
curl-6 said:
oniyide said:
curl-6 said:
oniyide said:

nice rebuttal, the sales show that people have lost interest in the Wii by a lot. People are buying games well after its replacement? how much people? what kind of games? how often? Answer these questions. People are buying games for PS3 and 360 and will continue to do so and their replacements are out, whats your point? For a system that was that popular and sold that much, it should be selling more software, period

The "kind of games" is irrelevant, as are comparisons to PS3/360. The point is, the idea that everyone just abandoned their Wii a month after buying it and never went back is fanboy slander that the numbers do not support.

No it isnt, when you present data you have to present data. Comparisons are not irrelevant otherwise how will will have a barometer? You dont want to do comparisons because you want the Wii to exist in a bubble, its not. No one is saying that people arent buying software for WIi they are saying they are not buying alot for the amounts of systems that have been show and the numbers do support that. Especially when you bring in the other two systems which surprise to surprise you think are irrelevant to the conversation.

PS3 and 360 have no relevancy as to whether people abandon their Wiis shortly after purchase and never goback. (Which by and large they don't, claims otherwise are fanboy propaganda)

Wii's attach rate is 7. That alone ends the argument.

attach rates dont mean anything. All that matters is software sold and Wii has not sold that much software in 2013. Software sold is the only factor in determining if people are actually buying games for the system. Their that ends the argument.

YOu are right about PS360 they dont determine whether people bought the Wiis and dropped them they do show what software sales SHOULD be


How many new games for the Wii were published in 2013?

How many new games for PS3 and XBox 360 where published in 2013?



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Pristine20 said:
I wish you guys were here for the first 2 years of the ps3 lol. It was hilarious!


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curl-6 said:

the system was essentially retired some time ago.

Just as it was for a large portion of its userbase, within a year of buying it.

Im not saying there are not hundreds of thousands that own and love their Wii, don't get me wrong, but the wii, just like every other console, has a fair chunk of users that buy or have it bought for them on a whim, theres are generally kids who get mommy or daddy to buy them one at christmas or birthdays because kid x or kid y at school has one, in these instances the moment something else becomes trendy in their social groups the past trends are dropped like a rock.

the Wii attracted records sales for a nintendo console, but in doing so a record number of kids as outlined above, so it is not unrealistic to predict that a good 20-30% of the consoles sold did not see any use past the 1 year mark, including the game bundled with the console, that would leave (under your terms) 1 year to purchase a further 6-7 games.

Being realisatic, nobody bought their kid JUST a Wii console and asked them to make do with the bundled game, did they?, they at the very least got 1-3 games, which then leaves 1 year to make a further 3-6 games, if you think 3-6 games purchased in a years time for a console that was flooded to death with shovelware is unrealistic then i don't even know what to say to you.

While the "played less than a month and shelved" rhetoric may not be universal, there are sure to be plenty that did just that, but realistically, a larger portion would have ditched it within the first year, I sure did.

And for the record, I still own that very console, it is sat next to me as i type, along side my 360, vita tv, ps3 and ps4 (xbone is under the tv hidden away next to my WiiU because its just too damn big).

You paint a picture that just isn't realistic, the wii sold extremely well but the notion that it wasn't a fad for a large chunk of its userbase is just wrong, after all if those users had not ditched the console or switched to other platforms, the WiiU wouldn't be on the virge of being lapped right now, would it?



I guess it's natural to hate on the sucesor of the best selling console. PS3 felt the same hate as wii u is feeling now.



Angelv577 said:
I guess it's natural to hate on the sucesor of the best selling console. PS3 felt the same hate as wii u is feeling now.

Unfortunately I do not hate the console, I simply hate the lack of compelling games. Ive never been a big fan of Mario titles and Wonderful101 was the worst $50 i ever spent, so 2013 has been an absolute bust for me.



lucidium said:
curl-6 said:

the system was essentially retired some time ago.

Just as it was for a large portion of its userbase, within a year of buying it.

Im not saying there are not hundreds of thousands that own and love their Wii, don't get me wrong, but the wii, just like every other console, has a fair chunk of users that buy or have it bought for them on a whim, theres are generally kids who get mommy or daddy to buy them one at christmas or birthdays because kid x or kid y at school has one, in these instances the moment something else becomes trendy in their social groups the past trends are dropped like a rock.

the Wii attracted records sales for a nintendo console, but in doing so a record number of kids as outlined above, so it is not unrealistic to predict that a good 20-30% of the consoles sold did not see any use past the 1 year mark, including the game bundled with the console, that would leave (under your terms) 1 year to purchase a further 6-7 games.

Being realisatic, nobody bought their kid JUST a Wii console and asked them to make do with the bundled game, did they?, they at the very least got 1-3 games, which then leaves 1 year to make a further 3-6 games, if you think 3-6 games purchased in a years time for a console that was flooded to death with shovelware is unrealistic then i don't even know what to say to you.

While the "played less than a month and shelved" rhetoric may not be universal, there are sure to be plenty that did just that, but realistically, a larger portion would have ditched it within the first year, I sure did.

And for the record, I still own that very console, it is sat next to me as i type, along side my 360, vita tv, ps3 and ps4 (xbone is under the tv hidden away next to my WiiU because its just too damn big).

You paint a picture that just isn't realistic, the wii sold extremely well but the notion that it wasn't a fad for a large chunk of its userbase is just wrong, after all if those users had not ditched the console or switched to other platforms, the WiiU wouldn't be on the virge of being lapped right now, would it?

Wii U's woes are not the result of the Wii, they are the result of the Wii U's own terrible management. (No showcase launch games, a game drought right out of the gate, a stupid name, poor marketing, rampant delays, etc)