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Carl2291 said:

But I currently have no numbers, other than VGChartz, to back up that claim.

Its a guess.

I already that anybody that think PS3 outselling 360 in December in US is delusional... it is clear for me and not even up to debate... myabe I see the trends in a different way than most people... that's fine I guess.

What support PS4 over Xbone in December in US? A lot of facts already know.

+ MS holding words to talk about December.
+ MS stating they won't give any more word about sales before the Financial Releases.
+ Amazong showing PS4 above Xbone in every chart.
+ Gamestop showing PS4 above Xbone.
+ Retailers showing big numbers of Xbones not sold (some rare cases of Day One Edition too)
+ Sony shipping news batch of console to US every week * even more than one time per week *
+ Walmart claiming the biggest shipment they received of PS4 for US * even bigger than launch shipment *

I don't know... you will call all of these anecdotal but at the end this is a trend... and unless most people for it will be a surprise if Xbone won December by NPD.

Now I ask you what evidences (even anecdotal) do you have to support the opposite?

PS. There is nothing new in this post... just repeating everything I said in VGC in the latest times... PS4 proved to be undertracked like I said (3.9m to 4.1m) and I showed the 2.0m for Xbone in early December was a lie (with real numbers) too but nobody cared... and in the end people get surpised when VGC changes the numbers to fit the outside numbers.



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ethomaz said:

What support PS4 over Xbone in December in US? A lot of facts already know.

+ MS holding words to talk about December.
+ MS stating they won't give any more word about sales before the Financial Releases.
+ Amazong showing PS4 above Xbone in every chart.
+ Gamestop showing PS4 above Xbone.
+ Retailers showing big numbers of Xbones not sold (some rare cases of Day One Edition too)
+ Sony shipping news batch of console to US every week * even more than one time per week *
+ Walmart claiming the biggest shipment they received of PS4 for US * even bigger than launch shipment *

See now that would have been a reasonable post, with those reasons for why you think VGChartz is off.

What you did before was state what you thought as fact, without posting any evidence for the claim when I asked you. Just saying "Wait for NPD" doesnt cut it ethomaz. You have to post evidence. Numbers. Charts. Something to support your claims.



                            

Carl2291 said:
ethomaz said:

What support PS4 over Xbone in December in US? A lot of facts already know.

+ MS holding words to talk about December.
+ MS stating they won't give any more word about sales before the Financial Releases.
+ Amazong showing PS4 above Xbone in every chart.
+ Gamestop showing PS4 above Xbone.
+ Retailers showing big numbers of Xbones not sold (some rare cases of Day One Edition too)
+ Sony shipping news batch of console to US every week * even more than one time per week *
+ Walmart claiming the biggest shipment they received of PS4 for US * even bigger than launch shipment *

See now that would have been a reasonable post, with those reasons for why you think VGChartz is off.

What you did before was state what you thought as fact, without posting any evidence for the claim when I asked you. Just saying "Wait for NPD" doesnt cut it ethomaz. You have to post evidence. Numbers. Charts. Something to support your claims.


Interesting that GameStop best sellers shows Xbox One on top, with many skus

 http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=28-xu0,1343



ethomaz said:

ADJUSTMENTS IN PREVIOUS WEEKS

3DS -316,705
PS3 -273,471
360 -191,716
Wii -66,901
DS 0
PSP -265,144
PSV -52,451
Wii U -25,485
PS4 15,973
Xbone -8,900

OVERALL ADJUSTEMNTS IN 2013

3DS 34,000
PS3 1,545,839
360 1,159,074
Wii 244,392
DS -828,602
PSP 2,782,345
PSV 239,815
Wii U -316,726
PS4 271,339
Xbone 183,311


Great for PS4 and PS3.



ethomaz said:

+ MS holding words to talk about December.
+ MS stating they won't give any more word about sales before the Financial Releases.
+ Amazong showing PS4 above Xbone in every chart.
+ Gamestop showing PS4 above Xbone.
+ Retailers showing big numbers of Xbones not sold (some rare cases of Day One Edition too)
+ Sony shipping news batch of console to US every week * even more than one time per week *
+ Walmart claiming the biggest shipment they received of PS4 for US * even bigger than launch shipment *

 


So much lies and distorcions it make me doubt your sanity.

+ MS will talk about December when they whant to talk.

+ Sony won´t talk either.

+ December charts showed XOne ahead of PS4. And daily bestsellers show XOne ahead in several most of the time when there were no PS4 shippment.

+ Gamestop is showing XOne above PS4 http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=28-xu0,1343

+ Reailers don´t show anything that is not anedoctal, mostly Gaffers trying to prove a point. It´s the same story since Black Friday.

+ There are also PS4 day one Killzone bundle at Amazon.

+ There is no daily restock for NA but at Amazon.

+ This batche was at the week before Christmass, its effects were well documented by VGChartz adjustments.  

- The last two points you are contradicting yourself.



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Xbox One is overtracked by 50k in Germany : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=96947102#post96947102



WebMasterFlex said:
Xbox One is overtracked by 50k in Germany : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=96947102#post96947102

I'm now really interested in the MS shipment for the quarter... no tracker numbers supports this 3 million sales by end of 2013.



pezus said:

That would be interesting, if PS4 wasn't sold out...

Come on, you know this. It's the same on Amazon, always. One is ahead until PS4 gets stock and jumps way ahead.

It says it all that a refurbished PS4Vita bundle is #4, selling for over $700 and already sold out.


You don´t undertand Ethomaz mind. To him, PS4 will always sells better even if it has no supply. 



I don't know what the battle is.
- Europe is for PS4, it was already written.
- Japan will be for PS4.
- There will be a fight in NA PS4/One
- Overall it will be PS4 easily.



Dark_Feanor said:

You don´t undertand Ethomaz mind. To him, PS4 will always sells better even if it has no supply.

WTF?

Sony is shipping PS4 to US in every week... that's why Xbone is not outselling it in US... the issues is that everything Sony ships gets Sold Out in matter or minutes or hours at max.

And please link to a Gamestop December best-sellings... not the lifetime or actual only... BTW can you explain to me how this best-selling works on Gamestop?