Agree with almost everything so won't point much on it.

But I will just say that I wouldn't care for the game even on PS as I didn't for MAG. But saying about general userbase yep... In other thread I was saying that some Xbox fans ignore Destiny because its multiplat now (and threat bungie as traitors) and some PS fans say it will be a lot better than Titanfal because of exclusive content... it is silly, and won't play any of them, but will sure check titanfall on my friend's house just because I like mechas.

I think Destiny is going to be huge xD Looks amazing.  but youre right it wont be as hyped as exclusive games, but it being a bungie game it will def sell really well. 

And yeah you said you dont like online games so i can understand you not liking the looks of TitanFall.  As for MAG, it was a great idea, but i didnt like it personally. Sad to see Zipper not do as well as they did with the original socom.  I have a friend who is a huge fan of the Socom series and was in the number one clan in the world for Socom 2 so he was pumped for MAG.  He was the reason i bought MAG actually lol  He didnt seem to like it either. Im not a huge Battlefield fan either (Yet ive played it everyday for the last week xD). With all that said I do believe they should make a MAG 2.  It has a good idea and there really is only one other game that has massive scale similar to it which is BF so it has the chance of compeing in a market that isnt oversaturated.

For me my fav shooters are Halo, Killzone, Resistance(story not MP), Gears, and Call of Duty.

KZ I like a little... MAG i wanted to try but no friend bought (my brother liked SOCOM, he is the shooter fanatic on the family)... I was interested in the strategy part, but with the massive team size it probably got confuse.

Destiny will probably be a good game for shooter fans and titanfall as well unless respaw drops the ball. Hope you, selnor and the other people that hype it enjoy as much as you expect it. I will wait for Drive Club and Infamous (hope I get my PS4 by them)... Still have to try PGR on my sister - will be a good comparison (even with a gen dif).

KZ is realyl good :D  Im kind of sad i havent got to play Shadowfall yet but ill def be buying it when i get PS4.  I loved KZ2 but KZ3 was ok which was the only reason i wasnt as hyped for it.

Drive CLub looks like itll be the best looking car game visualy.  Very curious to see how it does.  Would be nice to have another racing game oon the market that does well other than Forza, GT, and Need for Speed.

The only thing ill say about Destiny that im curious about is if it has competitive multiplayer.  Bungie has been so good with that over the years so im really hoping they do.  Other than that it reminds me a lot of Borderlands but with a much deeper world.  Def buying it day 1.

PGR unlikely since Phil Spencer considers Xbox to have Forza as a franchise and Forza Horizon and thinks that PGR would just fill it with racing games, He said he does consider Horizon a seperate franchise though and basically confirmed it is going to come at some point, Also Playground games are working on a next gen project so hopefully Forza Horizon 2 will come soon, Probably my favriote Forza game

Maybe later but I doubt we will get a PGR anytime soon, I never played the game so Idk what it's like =P but yeah I kinda agree, Although they are all racers they all look completely different to eachother and variety is nice, Microsoft appears to be listening this time with people demanding certain games so maybe if enough people demand PGR it will come but I love that Horizon is a seperate franchise so the next one should be coming soon (Allot of rumours for this year but I haven't saw any proof for that)

This is good for the Xbox crowd. Perhaps the biggest shift to next gen for them.

Having been a 360 user past gen, it was frustrating beyond belief to play player hosted MP games like COD and Halo. Earlier in the gen, the host quitting would literally end the game (COD4) and later on we had host migration. Even then, the host advantage (or disadvantage with lag comp) was a complete mess and hit detection was all over the place.

Luckily, playing Ghosts on PS4 with dedis has improved the online MP experience greatly and most Sony 1st part MP games have been on dedis for quite a while now even on PS3. Hopefully this will continue forward even more.

So without cloud they would have just 3 players? Not evaluating Hw but cloud, please learn to read. But if I were to take your clue Ps4 is twice stronger than xbone.

I am assuming that English is not your first language.  No disresepect meant, but some of your post are very difficult for me to follow.

That being said, the cloud is simply remote computer that ties to your local computing via the internet.  That can be storage, dedicated servers,  rendering offload etc.  My  understanding is that Microsoft has spent a TON of money here.  Dedicated serviers that are fast can only help the online gaming experience.  Also, this will set the bar higher for other developers, since once people have smoother online games with less lag, they will want that as the norm.

Yep =P Who actually made the first PGR? What happened to them?