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What's the point of no return for WiiU?

When/if MK fails 121 35.07%
 
When/if Smash fails 64 18.55%
 
When/if a $100 cut fails 78 22.61%
 
Other 79 22.90%
 
Total:342

Holiday 2014 is the test. If it doesn't save the Wii U, nothing will.

By then, it should be at it's prime. Smash, MK, 3Dworld, Pikmin, DK, will all be out on the system for sure, hopefully with a few surprises. If those games, and some sick new bundles and/or pricecut don't save it, then nothing will. Zelda U will be it's highest point after it begins it's descent into darkness.




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Miguel_Zorro said:
oniyide said:
Miguel_Zorro said:
jrRodney said:
Why do users care about sales as long as you can play what you want. I think people should let market investors worry about who sales more? We are users not market investors. More consoles never equal better games.

Furthermore, MK8 and Smash Bros failure is not dictated by sales it's dictated by whether they are good games. How many crappy games have sold a crapload of units?

Actually, yes it does.

We care about sales because if there are more consoles sold, more games will be released for it.  If this thing doesn't start selling more, there won't be more games - then you won't be able to "play what you want".

To answer the OP - 2014 is the make or break year.  Mario Kart and Smash Brothers might be enough to push sales into decent territory, but I'm still quite sure that the WiiU will be in 3rd place this generation unless they come up with some completely new game that draws people in the way games like Wii Fit did for the Wii.

you missed his point. he didnt say more games he said "better" games. I think Wii is a perfect example of that. Now personally i say the 75% shovelware library compared to all the not too shabby 1st party and of course 3rd party games that devs actually cared about on the HD twins would prove his point. BUT 'better' is subjective. You'll def. get more, that much is true.

It was obviously implied that more games includes more good games.  Did I really need to explain that?


no nothing was implied it was self explanatory, you are looking for meaning where there is none. Unless you do believe that more games = more good games. If thats the case then we'll have to agree to disagree and have a good night.



 If Wii U  doesn't sell well   this year, then  it's doomed. Plain and simple. Zelda U is a must for holiday 2014.



                
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AZWification said:

 If Wii U  doesn't sell well   this year, then  it's doomed. Plain and simple. Zelda U is a must for holiday 2014.

Not gonna happen.



To sell well, Wii U needs two things:
- The big guns; Mario Kart and Smash
- A price within the casual/lower income shopper's buying range ($199)

Even once it has the big games, that won't be enough if it's priced too high for the primary buyers of those games.

If it's still $299 when Smash/Kart arrive and those don't kick it into high gear, it's not over.



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If Xbone manages to surpass it I'd say they are doomed.



Conina said:
zippy said:
Ive seen enough from Sept- Jan sales to see that the Wii U is gathering some sort of momentum.

Yeah, it's called christmas/holiday shopping season, beginning around thanksgiving/black friday.

Oh my, thanks for pointing that out and editing my post down to one sentence. Sales are sales doesnt matter when they come, as long as they come, and as i said in my original post the base numbers will be higher this year :)



if they fall behind the PS4 and the XBO by the end of 2014 then they are really in trouble imo, the Wii U only has a slight lead right now (nothing like what the XBOX 360 had over other consoles in the last gen), if that lead goes and the PS4/XBO are selling more consistently through pretty much all of 2014 then they are in serious trouble, right now I wouldn't predict more than 20-30m sales lifetime for the Wii U, unless the big franchise games can turn things around and maybe a price drop as well, then I see no real reason to revise that anytime soon.

(for reference I predict PS4 sales will top 80m lifetime, and XBO to top 40m lifetime)