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Forums - Sales - Hardware Up 21st Dec... PS4 Doubles Xbone Sales

TiagoCosta said:
Touma said:
TiagoCosta said:

Don't forget, Xone isn't out in many country's in Europe...


Maybe but the 13 countries represent 90/95% of sales in Europe. The increase will be minimal.

13? More like 7. 


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Germany, France, UK, Austria, Italy and Spain represent 90% of sales in Europe. The increase will be minimal.



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So if these numbers are within the  the normal distribution the ps4 has almost 100% chance to really have sold more than the one this week!



PS4 extremely overtracked on this site.



Dark_Feanor said:
Shinobi-san said:
Dark_Feanor said:
pezus said:

Holy hell! The power of some stock :O

WiiU above One!

360 above PS3! :O


PS4 cannibalizing PS3 and 360 blocking XOne...

Microsoft should kill the 360 faster in the larger marteks. I was about to by one tomorow, but Sleeping Dogs changed my mind, I can wait until Titanfall.

PS: Until Sony announce their sales I won´t belive PS4 crossed the 3mi mark after Christmass.

Why are you so sure Sony will announce the 3 mil mark?

Do you also expect them to announce 4mil and 5 mil etc?

The 1 and 2 mil milestones covered the US and Europe luanches, i dont expect them to announce every million as it happens. Next announcement should be when they give their financials.

Thats my thinking anyways.


I think a annoucement of 3mi just after Christmass would be a great PR move. And Sony were never shy in bosting their good fortune. They annouced the 1mi pre-orders and the 1,5mi pre-orders.

Other thing is that the "Console Wars" has cooled in the media. We here are the only ones that seems to care. Even NeoGaf has been quite.

That is because I think a strong milestone like 3 and a half million just after Christmass would be very apealing. I suppose 3,5mi are the largest and fasted sales in history. And then they would have the satisfaction of MS not saing a word for more than one month, may be nothing until Titanfall.

That´s it.

I actually think a 3 million announcement after christmas isnt really that impressive compared to other consumer devices.

1 million in 1 day in the US - Impressive.

2 million immediately after Europe launch - Impressive.

3 million after the Christmas period. after being a month on the market and after luanching practically world wide - Okay...

I just dont see the significance of it...and to me it just doesnt seem that impressive. We also dont know if the 3.5 million (if it even is that) is the fastest in the industry. So whether or not Sony should announce 3 million is debateable. I just dont think it should be automatically assumed that they will do it. Sony in particular has chosen not to make announcements lately even when it seemed obvious like they would. Which is another reason not to expect it.



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I swear that I saw people here saying Sony wouldn't achieve the 5m target by April because they didn't have the games for this.

It seems certain for me right now.



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gigantor21 said:
NobleTeam360 said:
Woah Wii U sold more the the Xbox One. Anyway PS4 continues to sell well but the software sure doesn't show that.

Seriously. It's really weird.

Indeed, that the Xone and PS4 software have dropped so low on the top seller list is disturbing. The consoles themselves are selling well enough, so why aren't the games? 

People like to look at the boxes and menus. Thats a lot better than playing games.



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zumnupy10 said:
I swear that I saw people here saying Sony wouldn't achieve the 5m target by April because they didn't have the games for this.

It seems certain for me right now.


At the very least it's going to be closer to 6million rather than 5.



the_dengle said:
binary solo said:
Shortiloe said:
Wii U outsold Bone. Bone doomed, especially in Europe. Price is just too high.

Lol wut? The correct response is Wii U only sells 12k more than Bone despite 114k sales in Japan where Bone is not available. Wii U doomed everywhere but Japan. Price is not a factor so it must be just that people are indifferent to it. Bone is doing badly in Europe but Wii U is doing worse! Bone has price as excuse, what's Wii U's?

And when the Bone IS available in Japan, will it sell well enough there to overcome the Wii U's edge in that region?

Clearly most weeks it will. PS4 will be selling there and this taking a substantial chunk of the market. Wii U won't have weeks like this very often in Japan and Xb one will be selling in more markets. Xb one has more room for price cuts in the medium term, probably be $50 cheaper by this time next year is my guess. Xb one may also be a bit supply constrained in USA but this week's number could also be a reflection of the real relative demand between Xb one and PS4 we need more databefore we can draw conclusions. Fact is Wii U is weak everywhere but Japan. The true picture for Xb one outside USA can't be known until it is released in all markets. In USA Xb one will sell considerably better than Wii U. I think prospects for Xb one are better than for Wii U all things considered.



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Digi30 said:
Nem said:
Scisca said:
I've predicted some time ago that XO will have to fight hard if it is to outsell Wii U this gen and I stick to this. I think Wii U can outsell XO. XO doesn't stand a chance in Europe - there is absolutely no chance of it ever coming close to X360 numbers here. On the other hand Wii U should pick up to at least decent numbers if Nintendo finally learns what it has to do with it.


That is what i have said aswell.

PS4 will dominate. Wii U and X1 will be at each others throats.

Most likely another round of PS2 like gen.

 

Of course, Microsoft can go crazy if they want to take huge losses and either cut the price or take that kinect out. I dont think taking the kinect out is enough. They need to have a lower price than the PS4 to have a chance.

Yet the PS2 gen Xbox was still my favorite. Sold my PS2 to get an xbox and loved it. Sony let the PS2 era go to their heads when PS3 came around and imo dropped the ball at the start. I think Xbox has that same mentality sony had going into gen 7. We sold way more than previous hardware so we do what we want and now it will hurt them the first year or two until they straighten stuff out.


Your point beeing you have a personal opinion? Shocking. I also enjoyed the gamecube more than the PS2, but that doesnt really matter here.

But yes, the arrogance factor always repeats itself (except on the PS1 to PS2 transition). Now the problem with microsoft is they dont have the brand value of Playstation to make a turn around. Also they dont have as mant studios, and they also have to overcome the stigma that  once they get you to buy the system they will feed you to the kinect software. They do have the money to waste though.



binary solo said:
the_dengle said:
binary solo said:
Shortiloe said:
Wii U outsold Bone. Bone doomed, especially in Europe. Price is just too high.

Lol wut? The correct response is Wii U only sells 12k more than Bone despite 114k sales in Japan where Bone is not available. Wii U doomed everywhere but Japan. Price is not a factor so it must be just that people are indifferent to it. Bone is doing badly in Europe but Wii U is doing worse! Bone has price as excuse, what's Wii U's?

And when the Bone IS available in Japan, will it sell well enough there to overcome the Wii U's edge in that region?

Clearly most weeks it will. PS4 will be selling there and this taking a substantial chunk of the market. Wii U won't have weeks like this very often in Japan and Xb one will be selling in more markets. Xb one has more room for price cuts in the medium term, probably be $50 cheaper by this time next year is my guess. Xb one may also be a bit supply constrained in USA but this week's number could also be a reflection of the real relative demand between Xb one and PS4 we need more databefore we can draw conclusions. Fact is Wii U is weak everywhere but Japan. The true picture for Xb one outside USA can't be known until it is released in all markets. In USA Xb one will sell considerably better than Wii U. I think prospects for Xb one are better than for Wii U all things considered.


And yet there are three WiiU games selling better than any PS4 or Xone game in the US...