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Forums - Politics - Gay marriage in... Utah? Update: on hold for now

SlayerRondo said:
This is great and all but when did governments decide to get involved in marriage?

Marriage originally came from the government.  So from the very beginning?

It's a legal document.  Churches only got into it later. 

Plus now, Church that perform same sex marrages will not be barred from doing so in Utah.  Remember Church is supposed to be seperate in the USA.



 

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ninetailschris said:
Seece said:
ninetailschris said:
Same state that legalized having multiple wifes. May as well kill marriage as it's meaningless now.

2 guys/gals getting married makes marriage between a man and a woman meaningless?


Well in secular worldview everything about marriage is meaningless regardless of who or what.


Um, no, Marriage is many thousands of rights provided to a couple by the US Government at the State.  Church can do what they want, but the government can not discrimatate against someone because of their gender.  And not giving someone the right to vote, hold a job, or marry the person they love is against the values of the USA.



 

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Spazzy_D said:

But how many gay husbands will Utah let you have?

I've asked several Mormons this and none have answered.  They usually just scowl.  I saw one lady with a sign that said, "My grandpa had 4 wives, I just want one!"

But it's a genuine question!  I'd like an aswer two please.

PS The one Mormon that did answer said he just wanted the one he was married to.   Then his husband said, "That's the right answer."



 

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Kane1389 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Nice. Did not see that coming.

Hopefully this will speed things up in the more resistant states.

Uh, they havent actually legalized gay marrige in Utah

True, but yet again, a same sex marriage ban has been found unconstutional.  It was like withholding the right to vote from women.  Stated with a few states and spread till it was every where.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

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Zappykins said:
Kane1389 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Nice. Did not see that coming.

Hopefully this will speed things up in the more resistant states.

Uh, they havent actually legalized gay marrige in Utah

True, but yet again, a same sex marriage ban has been found unconstutional.  It was like withholding the right to vote from women.  Stated with a few states and spread till it was every where.

The states still have the right to defend traditional marrige and the voters can decide on most of the laws. And honestly, I dont think Mormons favour queer marrige very much



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Kane1389 said:
Zappykins said:
Kane1389 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Nice. Did not see that coming.

Hopefully this will speed things up in the more resistant states.

Uh, they havent actually legalized gay marrige in Utah

True, but yet again, a same sex marriage ban has been found unconstutional.  It was like withholding the right to vote from women.  Stated with a few states and spread till it was every where.

The states still have the right to defend traditional marrige and the voters can decide on most of the laws. And honestly, I dont think Mormons favour queer marrige very much

What? What is 'traditional marriage' where a women is property of the husband?  One were a family sells off a daughter? Or one with many wives?  or one with man husbands? (those area all Traditions.  You agenda is showing when you try to spin denying civil rights a defending something that never was what you are claiming.)

In the USA Churches will have no say in their ability to keep citizens from their civil rights. It's called the separation of Church and State.  It's one of the founding principals of the US Construction.  Just like how slavery is 100% supported by the Bible, it is not allowed because it violates state and federal laws.

I would hope that the Mormons should spend more of the time and the hundreds of millions of dollars they have spent trying to destroy same sex families on something good and meaningful.  The ironic thing is, with their large families, Mormons they produce more gay kids by percentage than all other families in the USA.  (The number of brothers a male child has directly increased the chances of said child being gay.)  Makes me wonder why they are attacking their own familes.

It seems that two men or two women getting married makes you uncomfortable.  May I ask why?



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

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Incredible year of progress in the US!



Zappykins said:
Kane1389 said:
Zappykins said:
Kane1389 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Nice. Did not see that coming.

Hopefully this will speed things up in the more resistant states.

Uh, they havent actually legalized gay marrige in Utah

True, but yet again, a same sex marriage ban has been found unconstutional.  It was like withholding the right to vote from women.  Stated with a few states and spread till it was every where.

The states still have the right to defend traditional marrige and the voters can decide on most of the laws. And honestly, I dont think Mormons favour queer marrige very much

What? What is 'traditional marriage' where a women is property of the husband?  One were a family sells off a daughter? Or one with many wives?  or one with man husbands? (those area all Traditions.  You agenda is showing when you try to spin denying civil rights a defending somethingh that never was what you are claiming.)

I use the word traditional as ''standard marrige''   in this context between a man and a woman.  Traditional in this sense means the christian (not jewsih) marrige - you know, the religion on which the entire western morals and laws are based on. 

In the USA Churches will have no say in their ability to keep citizens from their civil rights. It's called the separation of Church and State.  It's one of the founding principals of the US Construction.  Just like how slavery is 100% supported by the Bible, it is not allowed because it violates state and federal laws.

I never said anything about civil rights, did I?  I also never mentioned any churches or any religious institutions at all. You are trying to spin this into anther agonazing gay marrige debate. Do you get a boner by attacking church and religion? I was simply stating that  A STATE has a right to defend a traditional marrige and its laws, federal goverment has no say in Utah's laws regarding gay marrige.

I would hope that the Mormons should spend more of the time and the hundreds of millions of dollars they have spent trying to destroy same sex families on something good and meaningful.  The ironic thing is, with their large families, Mormons they produce more gay kids by percentage than all other families in the USA.  (The number of brothers a male child has directly increased the chances of said child being gay.)  Makes me wonder why they are attacking their own familes.

You do know that LDS church donated almost 1 billion dollars in over 180 countries around the world, right? How much did your beloved LGBT lobby spend on helping innocent, poor and sick people around the world instead of promoting their agenda?

It seems that two men or two women getting married makes you uncomfortable.  May I ask why?

It seems as if you got that impression simply for the sake of arguing? I never stated my stance on gay marrige issue, you just want to use your classic liberal progressive ad hominem and jabs against me because i used the word ''traditional'' in my post. 

It seems that the word traditional makes you uncomfortable. May I ask why?

 





This is absolutely shocking!

 



I had no idea Utah was a real place. I thought South Park made it up.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

People should also be allowed to marry animals and videogame characters.