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supernihilist said:
denying evolution is like the most moronic thing ever isnt it?

its pretty much all over the place lol


People literally want to be able to put an apple in the Sun light and see it grow legs and walk to shade before it wilts, otherwise to them the apple can't change ever. Just disregard the fact the planet has been here for 4.5billion years and go with what you've seen in your backyard in 20 mins.



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padib said:
Great question. It is not. Evolution is mostly wishful thinking disguised as science.

It absolutely isn´t and you should feel bad for even suggesting so.

 

It is true and happening as we speak, take some evolution classes to educate youself.

You won´t be able to ignore it´s existence (if you have a decently working brain and aren´t a brainwashed fanatic like ...someone else ) when you know the ins and outs of it.

We know far too much. Everything is based on logic and not based on "wishful thinking".

The wishful thinking is on the other side of the debate.



ganoncrotch said:
supernihilist said:
denying evolution is like the most moronic thing ever isnt it?

its pretty much all over the place lol


People literally want to be able to put an apple in the Sun light and see it grow legs and walk to shade before it wilts, otherwise to them the apple can't change ever. Just disregard the fact the planet has been here for 4.5billion years and go with what you've seen in your backyard in 20 mins.


I love your analogy. He literally wants to see a cockroach morph into a shark and bite him in the ass before his very own eyes.

There is a fundamental misunderstanding how evolution works right infront of us. Baffling.

But OooSnap is the same person who thinks that Dinosaurs lived at the same time as caveman.

So this thread, and his line of thinking is sadly not surprising.



orniletter said:
padib said:
Great question. It is not. Evolution is mostly wishful thinking disguised as science.

It absolutely isn´t and you should feel bad for even suggesting so.

 

It is true and happening as we speak, take some evolution classes to educate youself.

You won´t be able to ignore it´s existence (if you have a decently working brain and aren´t a brainwashed fanatic like ...someone else ) when you know the ins and outs of it.

We know far too much. Everything is based on logic and not based on "wishful thinking".

The wishful thinking is on the other side of the debate.

I remember taking classes of Logic wat HS, it was a Philosophy sub-subject if i recall...

 

he clearly missed those



supernihilist said:

I remember taking classes of Logic wat HS, it was a Philosophy sub-subject if i recall...

 

he clearly missed those


I don´t even know if he is serious about it, or just wants to "stir the pot". He usually comes of as rather intelligent and nice.

....gah ! This freaking bring my blood to the boil !

But I guess our well layd out "theories" (you  honestly can´t even call them theories anymore, they are pretty much facts) how and when things evolved, from Porifera (Sponges) right up to Mammalia are just "wishful thinking"...in contrast to ....religion....

and the devil himself hid the fossils of other species in the dirt to deceive the people... of course.



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orniletter said:
ganoncrotch said:
supernihilist said:
denying evolution is like the most moronic thing ever isnt it?

its pretty much all over the place lol


People literally want to be able to put an apple in the Sun light and see it grow legs and walk to shade before it wilts, otherwise to them the apple can't change ever. Just disregard the fact the planet has been here for 4.5billion years and go with what you've seen in your backyard in 20 mins.


I love your analogy. He literally wants to see a cockroach morph into a shark and bite him in the ass before his very own eyes.

There is a fundamental misunderstanding how evolution works right infront of us. Baffling.

But OooSnap is the same person who thinks that Dinosaurs lived at the same time as caveman.

So this thread, and his line of thinking is sadly not surprising.

Well, thinking that is fine if you've grown up just watching the flintstones. But surely when presented with the fact that we never actually mixed cement inside the bill of an ancient bird or used a giant (Stegosaurus) as a sort of Earth mover he would change his views? I really don't have the time to go digging about for it now, but I'm quitely confident that a religious higher up suggested a while ago that Jesus may well have encountered a Raptor and he would have rode it.... So you can surely see where some(all) of the confusion is generated from.



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supernihilist said:
denying evolution is like the most moronic thing ever isnt it?

its pretty much all over the place lol


Nope, it isn't.



ganoncrotch said:

Well, thinking that is fine if you've grown up just watching the flintstones. But surely when presented with the fact that we never actually mixed cement inside the bill of an ancient bird or used a giant (Stegosaurus) as a sort of Earth mover he would change his views? I really don't have the time to go digging about for it now, but I'm quitely confident that a religious higher up suggested a while ago that Jesus may well have encountered a Raptor and he would have rode it.... So you can surely see where some(all) of the confusion is generated from.


This is the same church that begrudgingly admitted that the Earth isn´t the center of the universe.

After everyone else already knew it for a long time. They admitted it in the 90s.

This youldn´t surprise me. At all.



padib said:
supernihilist said:
denying evolution is like the most moronic thing ever isnt it?

its pretty much all over the place lol


Nope, it isn't.


OK



We have a tail-bone, but we do not have a tail. It is vestigial, originally serving a purpose, and now is an unfavourable allele. And that is visual proof of evolution; the systematic change in the frequency of genes in a population so that favourable characteristics are passed down and become more common. There are so many examples of this: Moths during industrialisation, antibiotic-resistant pathogens, pesticide-resistant insects, camouflage among many others. As said before, it is all over the place and it is moronic to deny it.