A dev in GAF said.

"Yes, you can get more out of the PS4's CPU than you can the Xbox's."

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=94264594

Well he didn't say if PS4's CPU have more clock but confirms you can get more from it.

walsufnir said:

This can mean anything, especially it can mean "in combination with GDDR5 Ram you can get more from it". This, just like the benchmark, tells us nothing, sadly.

I agree but I guess it is more related with how much resource the OS in both system uses than clock or GDDR5 at all.

A couple things here.

1. How does a game releasing maybe a year after a console launch possibly (yes possibly cause all you're doing here is guessing) looking better than a launch game prove anything, again? I mean Gears 1 looked substantially better than Resistance, did that suddenly mean that nothing on PS3 would ever top a 360 game again?

2. Why the hell are you trying to downplay Corrinne Yu's role so much? This is just ridiculous, with comments like Brothers in Arms and Broderlands never won graphics awards, look at how many games Gearbox put out during that time and compare it to 343i's output, that is not even mentioning how Borderlands was going for a distinct artstyle and not uber highend graphics. Fact is Yu developed Halo 4s lighting engine which played a huge role in it looking as good as it did.

3. Explain to me, how Halo 5 is going to blow everything on PS4 out of the water, if Halo 4, while arguably being able to compete, was still in the general opinion being topped by several PS3 titles? When on 360 multiplats often looked, albeit slightly, better than on PS3, showing how difficult the PS3 was to develop for, while on PS4/XB1 multiplats from the start mostly look better on PS4 thus meaning the PS4 is alot easier to develop for? When Corrinne Yu, which played a huge role in Halo 4s graphics, now works for Naughty Dog a studio that is famous for pushing the limit on graphics?

Last gen you had the 360 that was alot easier than the PS3 to develop for, which was not that much weaker than the PS3 and still PS3 exclusives came out on top graphics wise at the end of the generation.

This gen you have a PS4 that is alot easier to develop for and also stronger than the X1 and you expect the outcome to be the other way round?

There is so much difference between them the PS4 is better by MILES, everyone knows that.

Trying to be witty? I was pointing out the flawed goalposts movement going on.

As for your post. Its really simple to answer.

1stly nothing you say is going to change mine or others opinions. Ryse looks the best to us out of the 2 consoles so far. Even PC players on this very forum say its some of the most impressive visuals they have seen. They do follow up with obviously the PC will do much better with PC exclusives soon.

Why do I mention this?

You say PS4 is not only easier to develop for but also more powerful. On top of that we know for a fact that Microsoft are behind on the SDK for Xbox One in comparison to PS4 as Developers such as Treyarch and Dice have confirmed.

So with that said why does Shadowfall not completely and utterly destroy Ryse in visuals with the formentioned things currently in play?

Until I see fruits of the easier to develop/more powerful PS4 showing better graphics its all hot air and smoke screen. Because at launch the harder to develop for and weaker Xbox One in the hands of Crytek showed IMO it can outpace the PS4 in the hands of Guirella Games.

In no way am I saying PS4 is or isnt more powerful. ( I believe its more than just raw numbers ) But as I said in my very first post, until I see something that shows me otherwise, the PS4 is not proving its got any advantage over the Xbox One.

You might say BF4 or COD is proof. But people seem to dismiss that those developers say that has to do with Xbox One SDK being much further behind PS4 than hardware. Then obviously Ryse proves a good point that even with poor SDK a good developer can still find a way.

So I'll say again, from launch and through to Xmas 2014 I see no eveidence PS4 has some graphical advantage. Until otherwise thats the current situation.

Rye is looking great but its 900p and has frame rate issues which digital foundry revelead, wheras Killzone is 1080P with consistent frame rate better than Ryse. Also Crytek is known for making great looking games as they have skills and technology they invented but poor gameplay, but the Ryse was in development for long time as a Xbox360 title so they had very good amount of time.

Xbox one is capable of providing good visuals like PS4 but it might sacrifice resolution/frame rate for this usually in multi plats like we seen even at the beginnig and it will get bigger in future and its time consuming for developers to optimize for xbox one but its easy for them to develop for PS4 as they have more raw power and unified memory bandwidth. So, PS4 will shine in better multi plats with higher resolutions and can make better detailed exclusives compared to xbox one as it has more power and also Sonys frist party studios like Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Sucker puch, GG and Second party Quantic dram etc.,

Trying to be witty? I was pointing out the flawed goalposts movement going on.

As for your post. Its really simple to answer.

1stly nothing you say is going to change mine or others opinions. Ryse looks the best to us out of the 2 consoles so far. Even PC players on this very forum say its some of the most impressive visuals they have seen. They do follow up with obviously the PC will do much better with PC exclusives soon.

Why do I mention this?

You say PS4 is not only easier to develop for but also more powerful. On top of that we know for a fact that Microsoft are behind on the SDK for Xbox One in comparison to PS4 as Developers such as Treyarch and Dice have confirmed.

So with that said why does Shadowfall not completely and utterly destroy Ryse in visuals with the formentioned things currently in play?

Until I see fruits of the easier to develop/more powerful PS4 showing better graphics its all hot air and smoke screen. Because at launch the harder to develop for and weaker Xbox One in the hands of Crytek showed IMO it can outpace the PS4 in the hands of Guirella Games.

In no way am I saying PS4 is or isnt more powerful. ( I believe its more than just raw numbers ) But as I said in my very first post, until I see something that shows me otherwise, the PS4 is not proving its got any advantage over the Xbox One.

You might say BF4 or COD is proof. But people seem to dismiss that those developers say that has to do with Xbox One SDK being much further behind PS4 than hardware. Then obviously Ryse proves a good point that even with poor SDK a good developer can still find a way.

So I'll say again, from launch and through to Xmas 2014 I see no eveidence PS4 has some graphical advantage. Until otherwise thats the current situation.