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DerNebel said:
selnor1983 said:
Xbox One = Best selling Xbox Ever. Every week. And with WAY less countries.

Xbox One outselling PS4 in America. And will overtake US very soon.

PS4 is available in over 35 more countries ( And more than triple in EU ) than Xbox One and is only outselling Xbox One by 140,000 / Week at Christmas?????????

By VGC calculations we should have PS4 doomed threads everywhere.

Xbox One is selling amazing in less than 20 countries Wordlwide right now.

Obviously PS4 was severely overestimated in demand and Xbox One underestimated.

PS4 is now available in over 50 countries.

Some complete bullshit you're posting here, especially the Europe part

The X1 is available in the biggest european markets and it's doing horribly there, those 140k the PS4 has sold more in Europe per week is mostly thanks to the big markets where the X1 is available as well. (And where the PS4 supply is still very limited)

And saying that PS4 demand was overestimated, while X1 demand was underestimated makes zero sense. Why are there X1s everywhere if the demand was underestimated? (Today I seriously found a X1 Day One edition in a store) Why are PS4s still mostly sold out, when demand was "severely overestimated"?

The X1 is well on its way to become a second Wii U in mainland Europe, you just need to open your eyes to see it.


It is a FACT that PS4 is avaiable in over 30 more countries than Xbox One.

You can try and hide or forget that fact as much as you want.

Its a fact. And one that makes a HUGE difference even at only 4,000 sales each week for those tiny little countries.



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selnor1983 said:
DerNebel said:
selnor1983 said:
Xbox One = Best selling Xbox Ever. Every week. And with WAY less countries.

Xbox One outselling PS4 in America. And will overtake US very soon.

PS4 is available in over 35 more countries ( And more than triple in EU ) than Xbox One and is only outselling Xbox One by 140,000 / Week at Christmas?????????

By VGC calculations we should have PS4 doomed threads everywhere.

Xbox One is selling amazing in less than 20 countries Wordlwide right now.

Obviously PS4 was severely overestimated in demand and Xbox One underestimated.

PS4 is now available in over 50 countries.

Some complete bullshit you're posting here, especially the Europe part

The X1 is available in the biggest european markets and it's doing horribly there, those 140k the PS4 has sold more in Europe per week is mostly thanks to the big markets where the X1 is available as well. (And where the PS4 supply is still very limited)

And saying that PS4 demand was overestimated, while X1 demand was underestimated makes zero sense. Why are there X1s everywhere if the demand was underestimated? (Today I seriously found a X1 Day One edition in a store) Why are PS4s still mostly sold out, when demand was "severely overestimated"?

The X1 is well on its way to become a second Wii U in mainland Europe, you just need to open your eyes to see it.


It is a FACT that PS4 is avaiable in over 30 more countries than Xbox One.

You can try and hide or forget that fact as much as you want.

Its a fact. And one that makes a HUGE difference even at only 4,000 sales each week for those tiny little countries.

It doesn't make a difference if a product is supply limited.



AnthonyW86 said:
selnor1983 said:
DerNebel said:
selnor1983 said:
Xbox One = Best selling Xbox Ever. Every week. And with WAY less countries.

Xbox One outselling PS4 in America. And will overtake US very soon.

PS4 is available in over 35 more countries ( And more than triple in EU ) than Xbox One and is only outselling Xbox One by 140,000 / Week at Christmas?????????

By VGC calculations we should have PS4 doomed threads everywhere.

Xbox One is selling amazing in less than 20 countries Wordlwide right now.

Obviously PS4 was severely overestimated in demand and Xbox One underestimated.

PS4 is now available in over 50 countries.

Some complete bullshit you're posting here, especially the Europe part

The X1 is available in the biggest european markets and it's doing horribly there, those 140k the PS4 has sold more in Europe per week is mostly thanks to the big markets where the X1 is available as well. (And where the PS4 supply is still very limited)

And saying that PS4 demand was overestimated, while X1 demand was underestimated makes zero sense. Why are there X1s everywhere if the demand was underestimated? (Today I seriously found a X1 Day One edition in a store) Why are PS4s still mostly sold out, when demand was "severely overestimated"?

The X1 is well on its way to become a second Wii U in mainland Europe, you just need to open your eyes to see it.


It is a FACT that PS4 is avaiable in over 30 more countries than Xbox One.

You can try and hide or forget that fact as much as you want.

Its a fact. And one that makes a HUGE difference even at only 4,000 sales each week for those tiny little countries.

It doesn't make a difference if a product is supply limited.

It does if Microsoft has MORE stock for one place. It will saturate much faster. Generally speaking Consoles launch in loads of countries. Microsoft has chosen to supply a few countries to fulfill that demand. And have stock on shelves. Supply limited will not work the same way for Microsoft and Sony because of this.



Agreed on xb1 beating xb360 if it last as long...
Europe is ps4 territory it won't change... The important thing for xb1 is to stay first in USA and try to maintain good numbers in Englishman sh speaker Ng countries (uk/nz/aus/ca)... Then hit hard on "new" markets, Brazil and china and other...
then there ecosystem evolution might be either a motor or a deadweight on the long run... If you end being able to buy games app and have them on all your devices if possible at the same price or a premium licence for a few cents bucks more... And bundles of devices... Surface pro 1 or a nl 920 with an Xbox one or stuff like that...
MS has more weapons than it did with the 360 to hit hard with more created I've ways... Left me said before it's not just about gaming anymore... And casual/late adopters are not all about spec and visuals... If MS does attractive bundles and or cut the price accordingly over the years they can push products..



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selnor1983 said:
DerNebel said:
selnor1983 said:
Xbox One = Best selling Xbox Ever. Every week. And with WAY less countries.

Xbox One outselling PS4 in America. And will overtake US very soon.

PS4 is available in over 35 more countries ( And more than triple in EU ) than Xbox One and is only outselling Xbox One by 140,000 / Week at Christmas?????????

By VGC calculations we should have PS4 doomed threads everywhere.

Xbox One is selling amazing in less than 20 countries Wordlwide right now.

Obviously PS4 was severely overestimated in demand and Xbox One underestimated.

PS4 is now available in over 50 countries.

Some complete bullshit you're posting here, especially the Europe part

The X1 is available in the biggest european markets and it's doing horribly there, those 140k the PS4 has sold more in Europe per week is mostly thanks to the big markets where the X1 is available as well. (And where the PS4 supply is still very limited)

And saying that PS4 demand was overestimated, while X1 demand was underestimated makes zero sense. Why are there X1s everywhere if the demand was underestimated? (Today I seriously found a X1 Day One edition in a store) Why are PS4s still mostly sold out, when demand was "severely overestimated"?

The X1 is well on its way to become a second Wii U in mainland Europe, you just need to open your eyes to see it.


It is a FACT that PS4 is avaiable in over 30 more countries than Xbox One.

You can try and hide or forget that fact as much as you want.

Its a fact. And one that makes a HUGE difference even at only 4,000 sales each week for those tiny little countries.

Yeah, the problem is Sony are not selling 4000 PS4s per week in each small country, what are you thinking? They're allocating most of their PS4 stock to the markets where they have competition from MS, small countries where the X1 hasn't launched yet have probably not seen much PS4 stock since launch.



endimion said:
Agreed on xb1 beating xb360 if it last as long...
Europe is ps4 territory it won't change... The important thing for xb1 is to stay first in USA and try to maintain good numbers in Englishman sh speaker Ng countries (uk/nz/aus/ca)... Then hit hard on "new" markets, Brazil and china and other...
then there ecosystem evolution might be either a motor or a deadweight on the long run... If you end being able to buy games app and have them on all your devices if possible at the same price or a premium licence for a few cents bucks more... And bundles of devices... Surface pro 1 or a nl 920 with an Xbox one or stuff like that...
MS has more weapons than it did with the 360 to hit hard with more created I've ways... Left me said before it's not just about gaming anymore... And casual/late adopters are not all about spec and visuals... If MS does attractive bundles and or cut the price accordingly over the years they can push products..

Xbox 360 hade a year head start and was much cheaper than the PS3(even half the price at some point). The XOne is actually more expensive than PS4. Xbox 360 is already on the market for over 7 years and is still selling well, i do not expect the XOne or even the PS4 to be able to do the same.



J_Allard said:
That's because neither Crysis 3 or Homefront were really good games.


I loved Homefronts story though, crysis 3 sucked monkey balls imo   oh and the ps4 still has a lead in all territories EVEN the USA on units sold to date.  I can go into almost any store here in Jersey and get a X1 but the ps4 i have only seen in stock 1 time through the holiday season.  i honestly believe that ps4 sales have been hampered in the US due to supply issues where the X1 hasnt sold nearly as many Microsoft like to believe, i think they are going by shipping numbers and assuming since most stores are sold out that all stores are sold out.



Legend11 said:

I hate being drawn into these kinds of discussions because I (like many others) am tired of the console fanboy wars but here's my two cents...

Sony has no exclusives next year that can go toe-to-toe against Titanfall and Halo 5.  I mean you know it's bad when the guys that used to make exclusive lists and say multiplatform games don't really matter are playing up Destiny of all games.  The truth is that Sony fanboys can't wait for E3 2014 because deep down they know it's the case and they're hoping Sony will produce a AAA game out of thin air that can go against those two titans.

As for Xbox One is doomed just let that last paragraph sink in for a minute.  Xbox One will have two of the biggest next gen console exclusives (if not *the* two biggest next gen console exclusives) coming out next year.  In my opinion it's Sony that has blown its load too early by putting games like Gran Turismo 6 (a disaster considering its sales compared to Gran Turismo 5) and The Last of Us along with other exclusives on PS3.

I'm sure someone will want to show a list of PS4 exclusives that is basically almost all indie games but lets get real, it's extremely unlikely any of them will be a Minecraft and if indie games really moved hardware then the Vita wouldn't be the sales disaster that it is.  Add to that the fact that Microsoft's Indie program will be getting up to speed so there goes another advantage the PS4 will have had.

Speaking of lost advantage there's Microsoft's competing service to PS+ that will be debuting next year.  It seems like one advantage after another is disappearing for the PS4 and 2014 looks to be no different in that regard .  If anything it's Xbox One that will continue to be on the rise after a disasterous pre launch and PS4 which is coasting on Microsoft's mistakes that are rapidly being corrected.

Wait until the end of next year after Titanfall and Halo 5 (and all the other exclusives) are out their own instant game service had debuted before passing judgment on the Xbox One.  Sony fanboys should also pray that Microsoft doesn't throw in a price drop as well for shits and giggles because then the shit will have gotten real and PS4 might just become Xbox One's bitch.


This post is god. Thank you.  Much lulz were had.



toastboy44562 said:
Once Halo comes out and a price cut it will sell far better than PS4 in the USA


Awesome, that settles it XB1 is doomed! Since every prediction you make the opposite happnes. Your like a reverse prophet!