And Wii U has performed far worse than 3DS ever did over a longer period of time.

I don't doubt the situation for Wii U can improve. The numbers in this thread and Viper1's analysis indicates that in some parts of the globe, to a certain extent, Wii U can improve and post moderate, as opposed to terrible, sales numbers. 3DS has gone from posting low sales to being the best selling system globally, and is perhaps on track to sell around (90 to 110 million) two thirds of what DS did. Even with sustained improvement, Wii U has almost zero chance of hitting two thirds of Wii numbers (66 million), and would, even with improvement, be lucky to track between one fifth and one third of Wii numbers, which would put the system in N64 to GameCube territory (20 to 33 milion).

I'm not dooming the system here, I'm merely trying to adjust expectations. Wii U has been on track to perform comparably to, or worse than, systems like Saturn and DreamCast, and be Nintendo's worst peforming home console. The situation can improve, and I believe it will, but even with that improvement, the system will only occupy a niche comparable to the GameCube or N64.

It's a psychological need to validate their allegience and investments by rationalizing away concepts they perceive as a threat.

Well, you know the feeling now, you remind us how WiiU is DOOOOOMED and he reminds you about his PC! ;D

Anyways, from being the doomed of the doomest things in the world to be the best selling home console in Japan, WiiU has, clearly, a chance of being a modest console for Nintendo, to say the least.

Oh. So Tbone DOES make WiiU threads!

...On it's only decent week of the year.

yeh i agree the Wii U has performed worse than the 3DS over a longer period of time. Not 'much' worse as the 3DS was doing pretty badly during it's first few months. But yes the duration is much longer. However Nintendo were a hell of lot more cut-throat bout making sure the 3DS was a success. Also it didn't have nearly as much of a game drought as the Wii U. Give the Wii U some more time dude. I would like to believe the Wii U will be able to do at least one half of what the the Wii did. I wouldn't even rule out it doing two thirds.

The fact that the game was on regular Wii as well probably didn't help Wii U sales.

What's wrong with saying the thruth?

But PS3 was in its 7th? year last year! That's not a very high bar!

Still it was "successful" last year. Success doesn't have to be insane Wii-esque numbers. The Wii was an exception, in the current Japanese market, the Wii U's recent performance is great. Now, we just need to see if it holds for the rest of the year.

Nothing. But i don't expect you to like discussing the bad sales WiiU is experiencing even though it's the truth.