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Pachter Predictions for Wii U in Comparison to NPD:

November 2012:
450K prediction -> 425K reality
25K over-predicted (-5.55%)

December 2012:
675K prediction -> 463K reality
212K over-predicted (-31.41%)

January 2013:
125K prediction -> 57K reality
68K over-predicted (-54.40%)

February 2013:
80K prediction -> 66K reality
14K over-predicted (-17.50%)

March 2013:
55K prediction -> 68K reality
13K under-predicted (23.63%)

April 2013:
55K prediction -> 37K reality
18K over-predicted (-32.72%)

May 2013:
32K prediction -> 33K reality
1K under-predicted (3.13%)

June 2013:
38K prediction -> 42K reality
4K under-predicted (10.53%)

July 2013:
30K prediction -> 29K reality
1K over-predicted (-3.33%)

August 2013:
30K prediction -> 31K reality
1K under-predicted (3.33%)

September 2013:
55K prediction -> 95K reality
40K under-predicted (72.72%)

October 2013:
75K prediction -> 50K reality
25K over-predicted (-33.33%)

November 2013:
150K prediction



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JGarret said:
Pachter Predictions for Wii U in Comparison to NPD:

November 2012:
450K prediction -> 425K reality
25K over-predicted (-5.55%)

December 2012:
675K prediction -> 463K reality
212K over-predicted (-31.41%)

January 2013:
125K prediction -> 57K reality
68K over-predicted (-54.40%)

February 2013:
80K prediction -> 66K reality
14K over-predicted (-17.50%)

March 2013:
55K prediction -> 68K reality
13K under-predicted (23.63%)

April 2013:
55K prediction -> 37K reality
18K over-predicted (-32.72%)

May 2013:
32K prediction -> 33K reality
1K under-predicted (3.13%)

June 2013:
38K prediction -> 42K reality
4K under-predicted (10.53%)

July 2013:
30K prediction -> 29K reality
1K over-predicted (-3.33%)

August 2013:
30K prediction -> 31K reality
1K under-predicted (3.33%)

September 2013:
55K prediction -> 95K reality
40K under-predicted (72.72%)

October 2013:
75K prediction -> 50K reality
25K over-predicted (-33.33%)

November 2013:
150K prediction


nice work thank you



                                                             

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JGarret said:
Pachter Predictions for Wii U in Comparison to NPD:

November 2012:
450K prediction -> 425K reality
25K over-predicted (-5.55%)

December 2012:
675K prediction -> 463K reality
212K over-predicted (-31.41%)

January 2013:
125K prediction -> 57K reality
68K over-predicted (-54.40%)

February 2013:
80K prediction -> 66K reality
14K over-predicted (-17.50%)

March 2013:
55K prediction -> 68K reality
13K under-predicted (23.63%)

April 2013:
55K prediction -> 37K reality
18K over-predicted (-32.72%)

May 2013:
32K prediction -> 33K reality
1K under-predicted (3.13%)

June 2013:
38K prediction -> 42K reality
4K under-predicted (10.53%)

July 2013:
30K prediction -> 29K reality
1K over-predicted (-3.33%)

August 2013:
30K prediction -> 31K reality
1K under-predicted (3.33%)

September 2013:
55K prediction -> 95K reality
40K under-predicted (72.72%)

October 2013:
75K prediction -> 50K reality
25K over-predicted (-33.33%)

November 2013:
150K prediction

Yup. Pachter is actually pretty fair to the Wii U, giving generous predictions for more months than not. 

That said I think 150k could be a mistake on MCVUK's part, it's possible Pachter said sales of Wii U were down, only selling 65% of last year, and they misinterpreted that as "sales down by 65%". 

65% of last November's sales gives Nintendo a total of 270k Wii U for November, which is right in line with VGC's numbers. And 270k-290k is still an awful number. 



JGarret said:
Pachter Predictions for Wii U in Comparison to NPD:

November 2012:
450K prediction -> 425K reality
25K over-predicted (-5.55%)

December 2012:
675K prediction -> 463K reality
212K over-predicted (-31.41%)

January 2013:
125K prediction -> 57K reality
68K over-predicted (-54.40%)

February 2013:
80K prediction -> 66K reality
14K over-predicted (-17.50%)

March 2013:
55K prediction -> 68K reality
13K under-predicted (23.63%)

April 2013:
55K prediction -> 37K reality
18K over-predicted (-32.72%)

May 2013:
32K prediction -> 33K reality
1K under-predicted (3.13%)

June 2013:
38K prediction -> 42K reality
4K under-predicted (10.53%)

July 2013:
30K prediction -> 29K reality
1K over-predicted (-3.33%)

August 2013:
30K prediction -> 31K reality
1K under-predicted (3.33%)

September 2013:
55K prediction -> 95K reality
40K under-predicted (72.72%)

October 2013:
75K prediction -> 50K reality
25K over-predicted (-33.33%)

November 2013:
150K prediction

Thanks for that!

Looks like Pachter was overestimating Wii U all the time, except for September when he was really off and well maybe March, but it wasn't that much of a difference.

I expect that he is off this time around, and Wii U sold around 200k in Nov.



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Somebody should add those up and work out the average! I do think WiiU will be over 250k tho.



 

Seece said:
Somebody should add those up and work out the average! I do think WiiU will be over 250k tho.

[According to JGarret's post]

He has predicted a total of 1.7m through Oct 2013. Actual sales according to NPD were 1.396m.

Over-predicted at an average of 25.46% for 7 months

Underpredicted at an average of 22.67% for 5 months

Actual percentage of totals is an overprediction of 21.77%

 

So, he has been generous for WiiU.



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Well I certainly hope he's crazy in this case, but I still don't see the point of worrying about some guy's prediction when we'll know for sure in just a few days.



VGChartz Estimates for Wii U in Comparison to NPD:

November 2012:
412K prediction -> 425K reality
13K under-predicted

December 2012:
665K prediction -> 463K reality
202K over-predicted

January 2013:
79K prediction -> 57K reality
22K over-predicted

February 2013:
38K prediction -> 66K reality
28K under-predicted

March 2013:
85K prediction -> 68K reality
17K over-predicted

April 2013:
46K prediction -> 37K reality
9K over-predicted

May 2013:
37K prediction -> 33K reality
4K over-predicted

June 2013:
44K prediction -> 42K reality
2K over-predicted

July 2013:
36K prediction -> 29K reality
7K over-predicted

August 2013:
49K prediction -> 31K reality
18K over-predicted

September 2013:
101K prediction -> 95K reality
6K over-predicted

October 2013:
86K prediction -> 50K reality
36K over-predicted

VGChartz has estimated a total of 1.68 million through October. VGChartz is more accurate than Pachter.

If you want to call me nitpicky about that 20k difference, then at the very least, on average Pachter is no more accurate -- and has been no more "generous" to the Wii U -- than VGChartz.



the_dengle said:

VGChartz Estimates for Wii U in Comparison to NPD:

November 2012:
412K prediction -> 425K reality
13K under-predicted

December 2012:
665K prediction -> 463K reality
202K over-predicted

January 2013:
79K prediction -> 57K reality
22K over-predicted

February 2013:
38K prediction -> 66K reality
28K under-predicted

March 2013:
85K prediction -> 68K reality
17K over-predicted

April 2013:
46K prediction -> 37K reality
9K over-predicted

May 2013:
37K prediction -> 33K reality
4K over-predicted

June 2013:
44K prediction -> 42K reality
2K over-predicted

July 2013:
36K prediction -> 29K reality
7K over-predicted

August 2013:
49K prediction -> 31K reality
18K over-predicted

September 2013:
101K prediction -> 95K reality
6K over-predicted

October 2013:
86K prediction -> 50K reality
36K over-predicted

VGChartz has estimated a total of 1.68 million through October. VGChartz is more accurate than Pachter.

If you want to call me nitpicky about that 20k difference, then at the very least, on average Pachter is no more accurate -- and has been no more "generous" to the Wii U -- than VGChartz.

Pachter seems more generous with the Wii U predictions based on his predictions than VGC are. 

I kinda get the sense November numbers were not good though, if VGC is more accurate, either way, even their numbers are fairly terrible for the Wii U. 290k would be in line with the GameCube's worst November (2005) prior to the Wii launching where it was on its deathbed and had no significant fall releases other than Mario Party 7. For a system in its 2nd holiday season that would be a disaster. 150k is just a ridiculous level of failure though.

Reggie also seemed really sheepish in his interview about making promises about the Wii U's sales performance at VGX. He doesn't seem as confident these days.