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famousringo said:
Torillian said:

For context here's the post right before eFKac's:

"Cause the 3ds is owning the vita like no tomorrow to the point that Vita isn't even considered a competitor to the eyes of many so Sony fanboys need something else to bash... If the wiiU does well and Super Mario 3d world sells well... It would be too much for the hearts of Sony fans"

You don't think it makes sense that someone reading that post would conclude that this is a Sony fan bashing thread?  I mean you can get on his case for not reading the entire thread but you can't talk about how revealing it is he thinks this is a Sony fan bashing thread when there's someone bashing Sony fans just before his post.  


No. And I don't think it makes sense that somebody looking at a nail would conclude that the entire house is made of steel, either. Neither the thread title nor the OP engage in Sony bashing, and the post you single out wasn't quoted or otherwise identified by eFKac. He used the word "thread" to frame his complaint, not the word "post," so I see no reason to indulge eFKac's persecution complex.


There are actually three posts in the thread before eFKac posted that talked about Sony fans specifically.  The fact that the thread was not specifically intended for Sony fan bashing does not mean it can never evolve into one.  Whether or not three posts out of 18 are enough to make something a Sony fan bashing thread is up for debate, but you can't just say "that's not what the OP was going for so that's not what the thread is"



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Play4Fun said:
famousringo said:
eFKac said:
Ohh a Sony fans bashing thread! Awesome!

We'll see how accurate are NA numbers shortly, hope NPD will shed some light. Also can't wait to see Wii U numbers there. And Nintendo fanboys trolling the Vita! So many things to look forward to, exciting times!


It's quite revealing that the premise of this thread is that 3D World is doing fine and you interpret that as a thread for bashing Sony fans.


It is, isn't it?

No.



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TruckOSaurus said:
Calling Nintendo doomed offers a nice break from the Pixel Counting War.


Hey hey, let's be fair here. There's also the frame-rate wars.


Nintendo is winning the framerate wars. First-party, that is. ;)



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Nintentacle said:
Play4Fun said:


It is, isn't it?

No.


Yes.



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Fusioncode said:
Zero999 said:
Fusioncode said:
I think it's more to do with the fact that people thought this was going to be a huge system seller for the WiiU. Which it wasn't, the hardware bump has been minuscule for such a critically acclaimed title. It should have moved a lot more WiiUs, but now we're hearing reports about how the system only did 150k this month in the US. Of course that's just a prediction, so take it with a grain of salt.

wrong, especially for a title that will keep respectable weekly numbers for years to come.

An 18k bump in the US and a 5k bump in Japan. You actually think those are good numbers? One of Nintendo's biggest franchises can't move more than 23k units. 

Mario's Job is to maintain respectable sales through out the entire year not sell a huge amount on launch, that is a job that Zelda handles way better



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Torillian said:
famousringo said:
Torillian said:

For context here's the post right before eFKac's:

"Cause the 3ds is owning the vita like no tomorrow to the point that Vita isn't even considered a competitor to the eyes of many so Sony fanboys need something else to bash... If the wiiU does well and Super Mario 3d world sells well... It would be too much for the hearts of Sony fans"

You don't think it makes sense that someone reading that post would conclude that this is a Sony fan bashing thread?  I mean you can get on his case for not reading the entire thread but you can't talk about how revealing it is he thinks this is a Sony fan bashing thread when there's someone bashing Sony fans just before his post.  


No. And I don't think it makes sense that somebody looking at a nail would conclude that the entire house is made of steel, either. Neither the thread title nor the OP engage in Sony bashing, and the post you single out wasn't quoted or otherwise identified by eFKac. He used the word "thread" to frame his complaint, not the word "post," so I see no reason to indulge eFKac's persecution complex.


There are actually three posts in the thread before eFKac posted that talked about Sony fans specifically.  The fact that the thread was not specifically intended for Sony fan bashing does not mean it can never evolve into one.  Whether or not three posts out of 18 are enough to make something a Sony fan bashing thread is up for debate, but you can't just say "that's not what the OP was going for so that's not what the thread is"

Right, so the thread title isn't Sony-bashing, the OP isn't Sony-bashing, and 84% of all posts aren't Sony-bashing, but that remaining 16% of the thread is worth having a debate over?

I was hoping that by calling eFKac out I'd cause a little self-reflection that might prevent future derailments, but now that I know derailments are no longer considered a problem by the mod team here, the mischeivous voice in my head is wondering where I can apply these low standards to cause some derailments of my own.



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famousringo said:
Torillian said:

For context here's the post right before eFKac's:

"Cause the 3ds is owning the vita like no tomorrow to the point that Vita isn't even considered a competitor to the eyes of many so Sony fanboys need something else to bash... If the wiiU does well and Super Mario 3d world sells well... It would be too much for the hearts of Sony fans"

You don't think it makes sense that someone reading that post would conclude that this is a Sony fan bashing thread?  I mean you can get on his case for not reading the entire thread but you can't talk about how revealing it is he thinks this is a Sony fan bashing thread when there's someone bashing Sony fans just before his post.  


No. And I don't think it makes sense that somebody looking at a nail would conclude that the entire house is made of steel, either. Neither the thread title nor the OP engage in Sony bashing, and the post you single out wasn't quoted or otherwise identified by eFKac. He used the word "thread" to frame his complaint, not the word "post," so I see no reason to indulge eFKac's persecution complex.

please he used one quote as an example, fact is there were multiple posts bashing Sony fans before it.



famousringo said:
Torillian said:
famousringo said:
Torillian said:

For context here's the post right before eFKac's:

"Cause the 3ds is owning the vita like no tomorrow to the point that Vita isn't even considered a competitor to the eyes of many so Sony fanboys need something else to bash... If the wiiU does well and Super Mario 3d world sells well... It would be too much for the hearts of Sony fans"

You don't think it makes sense that someone reading that post would conclude that this is a Sony fan bashing thread?  I mean you can get on his case for not reading the entire thread but you can't talk about how revealing it is he thinks this is a Sony fan bashing thread when there's someone bashing Sony fans just before his post.  


No. And I don't think it makes sense that somebody looking at a nail would conclude that the entire house is made of steel, either. Neither the thread title nor the OP engage in Sony bashing, and the post you single out wasn't quoted or otherwise identified by eFKac. He used the word "thread" to frame his complaint, not the word "post," so I see no reason to indulge eFKac's persecution complex.


There are actually three posts in the thread before eFKac posted that talked about Sony fans specifically.  The fact that the thread was not specifically intended for Sony fan bashing does not mean it can never evolve into one.  Whether or not three posts out of 18 are enough to make something a Sony fan bashing thread is up for debate, but you can't just say "that's not what the OP was going for so that's not what the thread is"

Right, so the thread title isn't Sony-bashing, the OP isn't Sony-bashing, and 84% of all posts aren't Sony-bashing, but that remaining 16% of the thread is worth having a debate over?

I was hoping that by calling eFKac out I'd cause a little self-reflection that might prevent future derailments, but now that I know derailments are no longer considered a problem by the mod team here, the mischeivous voice in my head is wondering where I can apply these low standards to cause some derailments of my own.


Feel free to cause self reflection, but I don't think you're right in this instance that it's all in eFKac's head.

BTW, the classic "oh this didn't go how I wanted it to so I'm going to try to threaten the moderation team with applying this fake standard I think was just created all over the boards and show them what for" is really one of the worst things that users do.  So go nuts, but don't PM me when you go too far and get moderated for it.  



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