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kupomogli said:
curl-6 said:

But it's not just the resolution and lighting that separate 3D World from Galaxy, it's also textures, shadows, effects...

Hardly.  Super Mario Galaxy runs 60fps as well, not like it couldn't produce better effects if it only ran at 30fps. 

I'm not even going to argue something that wasn't even my main point to begin with.  I said that in passing.  You don't want to admit that Super Mario 3D World can run on the PS360 when I single out just one game so you grasp a minor comment in my post to get me to follow your lead and argue about that.  You avoid the comment of Devil May Cry 4 that runs 720p, can have more going on screen at once than Super Mario 3D World does, better graphics, and it runs at 60fps without frame drops.  Then I also point out that Super Mario 3D World is only confirmed to be native 720p and is upscaled to 1080.

Super Mario 3D World can assuredly run at the same framerate and resolution on the PS360 as it can on the Wii U.  Don't act so butthurt about it.   Uncharted could probably run on the Wii U.  I'm not going to argue over it just because it's on my preferred console.  The only thing that makes these games not possible at running on the other system is that they're first party and they never will, not that they can't actually run on them.  Except for the 360, it wouldn't be able to handle Uncharted. 

Slowing Galaxy to 30fps wouldn't enable the Wii to handle the effects and textures of 3D World.

How am I "butthurt"? I'm completely calm about this. You simply made a statement I consider unrealistic.

Now, I haven't played DMC4 myself, but of the 60fps PS3/360 games I have played, I can't safely say I found any that look as great as 3D World.

Could its visuals be replicated on PS3/360? I don't know, honestly. Maybe. Maybe not. Either way, the game looks gorgeous and runs like a dream.



curl-6 said:
kupomogli said:
curl-6 said:

But it's not just the resolution and lighting that separate 3D World from Galaxy, it's also textures, shadows, effects...

Hardly.  Super Mario Galaxy runs 60fps as well, not like it couldn't produce better effects if it only ran at 30fps. 

I'm not even going to argue something that wasn't even my main point to begin with.  I said that in passing.  You don't want to admit that Super Mario 3D World can run on the PS360 when I single out just one game so you grasp a minor comment in my post to get me to follow your lead and argue about that.  You avoid the comment of Devil May Cry 4 that runs 720p, can have more going on screen at once than Super Mario 3D World does, better graphics, and it runs at 60fps without frame drops.  Then I also point out that Super Mario 3D World is only confirmed to be native 720p and is upscaled to 1080.

Super Mario 3D World can assuredly run at the same framerate and resolution on the PS360 as it can on the Wii U.  Don't act so butthurt about it.   Uncharted could probably run on the Wii U.  I'm not going to argue over it just because it's on my preferred console.  The only thing that makes these games not possible at running on the other system is that they're first party and they never will, not that they can't actually run on them.  Except for the 360, it wouldn't be able to handle Uncharted. 

Slowing Galaxy to 30fps wouldn't enable the Wii to handle the effects and textures of 3D World.

How am I "butthurt"? I'm completely calm about this. You simply made a statement I consider unrealistic.

Now, I haven't played DMC4 myself, but of the 60fps PS3/360 games I have played, I can't safely say I found any that look as great as 3D World.

Could its visuals be replicated on PS3/360? I don't know, honestly. Maybe. Maybe not. Either way, the game looks gorgeous and runs like a dream.

it's not really about tech though, do you honestly think any 360/ps3 games  running at 60 fps look better then this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPiWaWDaFxs be honest. yes mario 3d land has better textures, lighting and effects, but mario galaxy 2 running 1080p with MSAA still looks amazing.



drake4 said:
curl-6 said:

Slowing Galaxy to 30fps wouldn't enable the Wii to handle the effects and textures of 3D World.

How am I "butthurt"? I'm completely calm about this. You simply made a statement I consider unrealistic.

Now, I haven't played DMC4 myself, but of the 60fps PS3/360 games I have played, I can't safely say I found any that look as great as 3D World.

Could its visuals be replicated on PS3/360? I don't know, honestly. Maybe. Maybe not. Either way, the game looks gorgeous and runs like a dream.

it's not really about tech though, do you honestly think any 360/ps3 games  running at 60 fps look better then this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPiWaWDaFxs be honest.

What framerate is that? The silky smooth fps was a key part of the beauty of the Galaxy games. Also, that's the least visually appealing part of the game.

(I actually think Galaxy 1 look better than 2 anyway)



curl-6 said:
drake4 said:
curl-6 said:

Slowing Galaxy to 30fps wouldn't enable the Wii to handle the effects and textures of 3D World.

How am I "butthurt"? I'm completely calm about this. You simply made a statement I consider unrealistic.

Now, I haven't played DMC4 myself, but of the 60fps PS3/360 games I have played, I can't safely say I found any that look as great as 3D World.

Could its visuals be replicated on PS3/360? I don't know, honestly. Maybe. Maybe not. Either way, the game looks gorgeous and runs like a dream.

it's not really about tech though, do you honestly think any 360/ps3 games  running at 60 fps look better then this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPiWaWDaFxs be honest.

What framerate is that? The silky smooth fps was a key part of the beauty of the Galaxy games. Also, that's the least visually appealing part of the game.

(I actually think Galaxy 1 look better than 2 anyway)

watch the whole video mario galaxy 2 1080p with MSAA looks amazing, and it's 60fps.



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anybody criticising 3D world for its graphics is the same kind of person who'd criticize toy story 3 for not looking realistic. it's still a marvel to behold. what more did you want it to do?



drake4 said:
curl-6 said:
drake4 said:
curl-6 said:

Slowing Galaxy to 30fps wouldn't enable the Wii to handle the effects and textures of 3D World.

How am I "butthurt"? I'm completely calm about this. You simply made a statement I consider unrealistic.

Now, I haven't played DMC4 myself, but of the 60fps PS3/360 games I have played, I can't safely say I found any that look as great as 3D World.

Could its visuals be replicated on PS3/360? I don't know, honestly. Maybe. Maybe not. Either way, the game looks gorgeous and runs like a dream.

it's not really about tech though, do you honestly think any 360/ps3 games  running at 60 fps look better then this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPiWaWDaFxs be honest.

What framerate is that? The silky smooth fps was a key part of the beauty of the Galaxy games. Also, that's the least visually appealing part of the game.

(I actually think Galaxy 1 look better than 2 anyway)

watch the whole video mario galaxy 2 1080p with MSAA looks amazing, and it's 60fps.

If that's true, I whole-heartedly agree, but surely any other level would do a better job of showing it off?



d21lewis said:
anybody criticising 3D world for its graphics is the same kind of person who'd criticize toy story 3 for not looking realistic. it's still a marvel to behold. what more did you want it to do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPiWaWDaFxs mario galaxy 2 at 1080p actually looks better to me, the game should haven been 1080p considering the wiiu is a millions time more powerful then wii, it really doesn't look like a huge jump graphically.



curl-6 said:
drake4 said:
curl-6 said:
drake4 said:
curl-6 said:

Slowing Galaxy to 30fps wouldn't enable the Wii to handle the effects and textures of 3D World.

How am I "butthurt"? I'm completely calm about this. You simply made a statement I consider unrealistic.

Now, I haven't played DMC4 myself, but of the 60fps PS3/360 games I have played, I can't safely say I found any that look as great as 3D World.

Could its visuals be replicated on PS3/360? I don't know, honestly. Maybe. Maybe not. Either way, the game looks gorgeous and runs like a dream.

it's not really about tech though, do you honestly think any 360/ps3 games  running at 60 fps look better then this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPiWaWDaFxs be honest.

What framerate is that? The silky smooth fps was a key part of the beauty of the Galaxy games. Also, that's the least visually appealing part of the game.

(I actually think Galaxy 1 look better than 2 anyway)

watch the whole video mario galaxy 2 1080p with MSAA looks amazing, and it's 60fps.

If that's true, I whole-heartedly agree, but surely any other level would do a better job of showing it off?


yup the galaxy games just have better art and look much sharper, mario design also looks better, more detailed.



drake4 said:
d21lewis said:
anybody criticising 3D world for its graphics is the same kind of person who'd criticize toy story 3 for not looking realistic. it's still a marvel to behold. what more did you want it to do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPiWaWDaFxs mario galaxy 2 at 1080p actually looks better to me, the game should haven been 1080p considering the wiiu is a millions time more powerful then wii, it really doesn't look like a huge jump graphically.

On a technical level, 3D World's textures, lighting, and effects are all much more advanced than the Galaxy games. (Though artistically Galaxy 1's celestial backdrops were more epic to me)