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JWeinCom on 02 December 2013

Ugh.

First of all Japan's population is about 160 million. UK's population is about 60 million. So, to match the 360 in Japan, Wii U sales would have had to have been about 2.5x greater per capita.

As for the utterly ridiculous "home console market is the same size" the home console market is smaller BECAUSE the 360 was a failure there. Without taking the XBox 360 into account, the size of the market is about 14 million in the UK compared to about 21 million in Japan. The 360 failing in Japan is not due to a smaller home console market, the smaller home console market is due to the 360 failing in Japan. And, the total gaming population in Japan is significantly higher than it is in the UK. You could say that Japan only games on handhelds, but that is not because of a bias against the notion of gaming at home, but because home consoles have become less appealing to Eastern tastes over the years. Again, the 360 failed because it was unappealing to Japanese gamers, and not for any other reason.

I'm not going to try and argue that Wii U sales are anything but abysmal in the UK, but the cherry picked warped stats here are so unbelievably arbitrary and fallacious, that it's impossible to view this in any manner but a trolling attempt. It's either knowingly misleading or unknowingly stupid.



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Carl on 02 December 2013
random15 said:
They pushed the hardcore nintendo fan(including me) away with the wii and all of the minigame casual shovelware stuff.


I used this exact same excuse 4 Years ago when I was trolling Wii.

Fun times.

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JWeinCom said:
Ugh.

I'm not going to try and argue that Wii U sales are anything but abysmal in the UK, but the cherry picked warped stats here are so unbelievably arbitrary and fallacious, that it's impossible to view this in any manner but a trolling attempt. It's either knowingly misleading or unknowingly stupid.

You got pezus'd.



                            

Seece on 02 December 2013
JWeinCom said:
Ugh.

First of all Japan's population is about 160 million. UK's population is about 60 million. So, to match the 360 in Japan, Wii U sales would have had to have been about 2.5x greater per capita.

As for the utterly ridiculous "home console market is the same size" the home console market is smaller BECAUSE the 360 was a failure there. Without taking the XBox 360 into account, the size of the market is about 14 million in the UK compared to about 21 million in Japan. The 360 failing in Japan is not due to a smaller home console market, the smaller home console market is due to the 360 failing in Japan. And, the total gaming population in Japan is significantly higher than it is in the UK. You could say that Japan only games on handhelds, but that is not because of a bias against the notion of gaming at home, but because home consoles have become less appealing to Eastern tastes over the years. Again, the 360 failed because it was unappealing to Japanese gamers, and not for any other reason.

I'm not going to try and argue that Wii U sales are anything but abysmal in the UK, but the cherry picked warped stats here are so unbelievably arbitrary and fallacious, that it's impossible to view this in any manner but a trolling attempt. It's either knowingly misleading or unknowingly stupid.


Last gen

Japan: 23.5m
PS3 - 9m
Wii - 13m
360 - 1.5m

UK: 22.5m
PS3 - 5.5m
360 - 8.5m
Wii - 8.5m




 

JWeinCom on 02 December 2013
Seece said:
JWeinCom said:
Ugh.

First of all Japan's population is about 160 million. UK's population is about 60 million. So, to match the 360 in Japan, Wii U sales would have had to have been about 2.5x greater per capita.

As for the utterly ridiculous "home console market is the same size" the home console market is smaller BECAUSE the 360 was a failure there. Without taking the XBox 360 into account, the size of the market is about 14 million in the UK compared to about 21 million in Japan. The 360 failing in Japan is not due to a smaller home console market, the smaller home console market is due to the 360 failing in Japan. And, the total gaming population in Japan is significantly higher than it is in the UK. You could say that Japan only games on handhelds, but that is not because of a bias against the notion of gaming at home, but because home consoles have become less appealing to Eastern tastes over the years. Again, the 360 failed because it was unappealing to Japanese gamers, and not for any other reason.

I'm not going to try and argue that Wii U sales are anything but abysmal in the UK, but the cherry picked warped stats here are so unbelievably arbitrary and fallacious, that it's impossible to view this in any manner but a trolling attempt. It's either knowingly misleading or unknowingly stupid.


Last gen

Japan: 23.5m
PS3 - 9m
Wii - 13m
360 - 1.5m

UK: 22.5m
PS3 - 5.5m
360 - 8.5m
Wii - 8.5m




Try reading more than one line of a post.

Seece on 02 December 2013
JWeinCom said:
Seece said:
JWeinCom said:
Ugh.

First of all Japan's population is about 160 million. UK's population is about 60 million. So, to match the 360 in Japan, Wii U sales would have had to have been about 2.5x greater per capita.

As for the utterly ridiculous "home console market is the same size" the home console market is smaller BECAUSE the 360 was a failure there. Without taking the XBox 360 into account, the size of the market is about 14 million in the UK compared to about 21 million in Japan. The 360 failing in Japan is not due to a smaller home console market, the smaller home console market is due to the 360 failing in Japan. And, the total gaming population in Japan is significantly higher than it is in the UK. You could say that Japan only games on handhelds, but that is not because of a bias against the notion of gaming at home, but because home consoles have become less appealing to Eastern tastes over the years. Again, the 360 failed because it was unappealing to Japanese gamers, and not for any other reason.

I'm not going to try and argue that Wii U sales are anything but abysmal in the UK, but the cherry picked warped stats here are so unbelievably arbitrary and fallacious, that it's impossible to view this in any manner but a trolling attempt. It's either knowingly misleading or unknowingly stupid.


Last gen

Japan: 23.5m
PS3 - 9m
Wii - 13m
360 - 1.5m

UK: 22.5m
PS3 - 5.5m
360 - 8.5m
Wii - 8.5m


Try reading more than one line of a post.

I did, weak reasoning. The home console bases are what they are.

You want another comparison?

Wii Japan - 13m
Wii UK - 8.5m

WiiU Japan - 1.2m
WiiU UK - 150k

It's vastly underperforming here.



 

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JWeinCom on 02 December 2013
Seece said:
JWeinCom said:
Seece said:
JWeinCom said:
Ugh.

First of all Japan's population is about 160 million. UK's population is about 60 million. So, to match the 360 in Japan, Wii U sales would have had to have been about 2.5x greater per capita.

As for the utterly ridiculous "home console market is the same size" the home console market is smaller BECAUSE the 360 was a failure there. Without taking the XBox 360 into account, the size of the market is about 14 million in the UK compared to about 21 million in Japan. The 360 failing in Japan is not due to a smaller home console market, the smaller home console market is due to the 360 failing in Japan. And, the total gaming population in Japan is significantly higher than it is in the UK. You could say that Japan only games on handhelds, but that is not because of a bias against the notion of gaming at home, but because home consoles have become less appealing to Eastern tastes over the years. Again, the 360 failed because it was unappealing to Japanese gamers, and not for any other reason.

I'm not going to try and argue that Wii U sales are anything but abysmal in the UK, but the cherry picked warped stats here are so unbelievably arbitrary and fallacious, that it's impossible to view this in any manner but a trolling attempt. It's either knowingly misleading or unknowingly stupid.


Last gen

Japan: 23.5m
PS3 - 9m
Wii - 13m
360 - 1.5m

UK: 22.5m
PS3 - 5.5m
360 - 8.5m
Wii - 8.5m


Try reading more than one line of a post.

I did, weak reasoning. The home console bases are what they are.

You want another comparison?

Wii Japan - 13m
Wii UK - 8.5m

WiiU Japan - 1.2m
WiiU UK - 150k

It's vastly underperforming here.



Noone said it wasn't underperforming. I believe I used the word abysmal.  Reading is fundamental.  Regardless, the comparison is stupid. 



Soundwave on 02 December 2013

EDIT: Never mind, just gonna bite my tounge. 



Seece on 02 December 2013
JWeinCom said:
Seece said:

I did, weak reasoning. The home console bases are what they are.

You want another comparison?

Wii Japan - 13m
Wii UK - 8.5m

WiiU Japan - 1.2m
WiiU UK - 150k

It's vastly underperforming here.


Noone said it wasn't underperforming. Just that the comparison was stupid.

The comparison was made to highlight how much WiiU is underperforming, so in that regard I don't think it is.



 

random15 on 02 December 2013

How about I love nintendo but it is not blind love. Also I got a 3ds on black friday just to play pokemon and zelda



JWeinCom on 02 December 2013
Seece said:
JWeinCom said:
Seece said:

I did, weak reasoning. The home console bases are what they are.

You want another comparison?

Wii Japan - 13m
Wii UK - 8.5m

WiiU Japan - 1.2m
WiiU UK - 150k

It's vastly underperforming here.


Noone said it wasn't underperforming. Just that the comparison was stupid.

The comparison was made to highlight how much WiiU is underperforming, so in that regard I don't think it is.


The comparison implies that population should have no impact on the sales of a product which is lol stupid.  Aside from the XBox 360, EVERY current and last gen system has sold more in Japan than in the UK.  That makes sense cause you know, the population is about twice as big. So, to not expect lower sales in the UK is stupid.